Mr. Jenner.

And they should be free in the United States?

Mrs. Dymitruk.

That's right.

Mr. Jenner.

And he shouldn't be required to pay? If they were free, he shouldn't be paying?

Mrs. Dymitruk.

Yes; that's what he figures.

Mr. Jenner.

When, if ever, did you next see either Marina or Lee Oswald?

Mrs. Dymitruk.

I have seen her. It was in 1963, summertime---I think was in July or June, or something like that. I saw her in Irving. I worked in Irving as manager of a French bakery in the Wyatt's Store--located in Wyatt's Store there.

Mr. Jenner.

That's a supermarket?

Mrs. Dymitruk.

Yes. And I managed the bakery. So, I saw her shopping----

Mr. Jenner.

Excuse me. I assume you speak French, too, do you?

Mrs. Dymitruk.

Very little.

Mr. Jenner.

Very little?

Mrs. Dymitruk.

Yes. Flemish and German.

Mr. Jenner.

Flemish and German and Russian--and English?

Mrs. Dymitruk.

And English.

Mr. Jenner.

You do very well with English.

Mrs. Dymitruk.

Thank you. And I saw her with little baby and her dressed maternity.

Mr. Jenner.

So she had the same child she had the year before?

Mrs. Dymitruk.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And she was pregnant with another child?

Mrs. Dymitruk.

Well, she was dressed like she was.
And I just saw her from far--and I said, "Marina?"
"Oh!" she says, "How are you?"
I said, "Okay."

Mr. Jenner.

Did she recognize you?

Mrs. Dymitruk.

Oh, yes. And she said, "Do you see anything on me?"
I said, "Well, I don't know."
She said, "Well, I expect another baby."
I said, "Well," I said, "that's something." I said, "How is your husband doing?"
"Oh, he's in New Orleans. And I'm going to New Orleans, too."
And there was another lady with her.

Mr. Jenner.

There was another lady? Would you describe the other lady, please?

Mrs. Dymitruk.

Well, she was tall, black hair. She spoke Russian.

Mr. Jenner.

What was her command of Russian?

Mrs. Dymitruk.

Very--not too bad. But I was surprised at her. Because I thought she was English first--her type of face.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mrs. Dymitruk.

And she said, "Well, no. I'm American--and I went to the university and studied Russian--and I practice now with Marina."
I said, "Why Russian?" I said, "Well, in United States, if you need another language, you study Spanish or French or German. Why Russian?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mrs. Dymitruk.

"Oh," she said, "I don't know, but I like very much the Russian language.
And I thought [gesturing with hands out, palms up]--I don't know.
And they sit down on the table and I give them some coffee. And she say that the lady was with her, she will drive her to New Orleans.

Mr. Jenner.

The lady who was accompanying Marina was going to drive Marina to New Orleans?

Mrs. Dymitruk.

Right.

Mr. Jenner.

What time of the year was this?

Mrs. Dymitruk.

Years and dates, I'm just lost.

Mr. Jenner.

Well, was it in the spring?

Mrs. Dymitruk.

No, no, no. It was in summertime.