Mr. Jenner.

He did not want to go?

Mrs. Dymitruk.

No; no. So then he decide that he want to go to the hospital and take his baby. I said, "All right."
So, we went to the hospital and we found a doctor. And there were children waiting and we wait. So he took care of the baby. He--the doctor took a blood test and took a X-ray--a lung X-ray and, I don't know, all kind of tests, right away.
So, on the way back--he got some kind of papers, I think it was two copies or three copies of papers----

Mr. Jenner.

From the hospital?

Mrs. Dymitruk.

From the doctor to go to the service desk.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mrs. Dymitruk.

So, at the service desk--he was standing here [indicating], I was behind him, and Marina was behind me with the baby. So---and the service desk asked question--the address and if he's working, and he said "No."

Mr. Jenner.

Not working?

Mrs. Dymitruk.

No. Then she said, "Do you have unemployment--do you get some unemployment money?"
He said, "No."
And she said, "Well, how do you live then?"
He said, "Well, friends helping me."
And Marina--she was behind me and she says, "What a liar!"
And they argue again.

Mr. Jenner.

They argued--between the two of them?

Mrs. Dymitruk.

Yes, in Russian language.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he overhear her make the remark to you that you've just told us?

Mrs. Dymitruk.

That's what she told. That's what she told.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he hear her say that--is what I'm----

Mrs. Dymitruk.

Yes--because then they were in argument.

Mr. Jenner.

Then, they got in an argument?

Mrs. Dymitruk.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And what was the argument about?

Mrs. Dymitruk.

Well, about the that he is not working--because he was lying.

Mr. Jenner.

I see. Did he say why he lied?

Mrs. Dymitruk.

No; no. He didn't say anything. So, that piece of paper--he received some kind of paper----

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mrs. Dymitruk.

To turn around and to pay a cashier, or something, I think so--but he put it in his pocket.

Mr. Jenner.

He put the paper in his pocket?

Mrs. Dymitruk.

In his pocket.
And so we came out and I brought them home and I didn't come into the house.

Mr. Jenner.

They just got out of the car and went in?

Mrs. Dymitruk.

Yes. They didn't say anything---thank you or what--- anything.

Mr. Jenner.

To you?

Mrs. Dymitruk.

Nothing.

Mr. Jenner.

They just got out?

Mrs. Dymitruk.

Yeah. You know, one thing, he said, "I don't want to pay any penny. It's suppose to be free. Doctors and everything in Russia is free. It's suppose to be free here, too."
I didn't like that at all. I was disgusted.

Mr. Jenner.

You were disgusted----

Mrs. Dymitruk.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

With him?

Mrs. Dymitruk.

I was disgusted with him [laughing]----

Mr. Jenner.

Do you recall that the burden of his argument, the point of his argument was that these things were free in Russia----

Mrs. Dymitruk.

That's right.