Mr. Paine.

should say, in other words, either the bulk of the package as well as the out in the middle or there could have been a sight there.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did the FBI or any other investigatory agency of the Government ever show you a picture of the rifle that was supposed to have been used to assassinate the President?

Mr. Paine.

They asked me at first, the first night of the assassination if I could locate, identify the place where Lee was standing when he was holding this rifle and some, the picture on the cover of Life.

Mr. Liebeler.

Were you able to?

Mr. Paine.

I identified the place by the fine clapboard structure of the house.

Mr. Liebeler.

By the what?

Mr. Paine.

By the small clapboard structure, the house has an unusually small clapboard.

Mr. Liebeler.

What did you identify the place as being?

Mr. Paine.

The Neely Street address. He didn't drive a car, so to have them over for dinner I had to go over and pick them up.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you ever tell the FBI that at first you felt if the object was a gun in the package it did not have a scope on it, but after seeing pictures of the gun and noting the small size of the scope on the weapon used to assassinate the President that the object you lifted could have been a rifle with the scope mounted on it?

Mr. Paine.

I don't remember saying that; no.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember being interviewed by FBI agents Odum and Peggs on November 24, 1963?

Mr. Paine.

Well, of course, I have seen Bob Odum frequently, Peggs is an unfamiliar name. It doesn't mean he couldn't have been there. That night I mostly went into the police station, spent much of it at the police station.

Mr. Liebeler.

On November 24?

Mr. Paine.

Is that a Sunday night or Monday?

Mr. Liebeler.

Sunday, the 24th would be a Sunday.

Mr. Paine.

I am too confused. Maybe it was on the next night that I spent at the police station.

Mr. Liebeler.

Well, let's go back and tell us about as best as you can recall how many times did the FBI interview you starting with the day of the assassination, the 22d of November. Did the FBI interview you on that day?

Mr. Paine.

There was someone at the police station, first the police took us to the station and asked us questions and we filled out an affidavit right in there.

Mr. Liebeler.

That is the Dallas Police Station?

Mr. Paine.

The Dallas police, and after they were finished someone from the FBI, I believe, asked me some questions. It was almost as though he had no--by leave of the police that he could do this.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember the name of that agent?

Mr. Paine.

Now, I don't believe I met, I was introduced to, Odum prior to the 22d. I do not remember that man, and it is possible that--I don't think it was Odum, but I wouldn't recall that out and I do not remember the name of that man. I don't know what he looks like.

Mr. Liebeler.

Were you interviewed by the FBI on Saturday, November 23?

Mr. Paine.

I am not going to be able to remember when I was interviewed without being able to have something to hang it on. There were news reporters. First the news reporters were more in evidence, and then the police came out again, and both of them stick in my mind more because they are more objectionable. I mean there is more----

Mr. Liebeler.

Would it refresh your recollection if I mentioned the name of Richard E. Harrison as an FBI agent who interviewed you on November 22, 1963, at the Dallas police station?

Mr. Paine.

No. I don't remember the name.

Mr. Liebeler.

Reconstruct for us the events of Saturday, November 23 as best you can. And perhaps I can help you if I ask you first, did you stay in your apartment in Grand Prairie the night of the assassination, the night of the 22d?

Mr. Paine.

No, I don't think so. No, we had a late supper there, Life reporters , were there, and-----