fighting their own country because they were deeply inside anti-communists, you see. I didn't say that I was all for them you see. I just described this as an interesting incident because I just read a book on that subject or something you know, and I thought that it was an interesting incident of the last war that occurred.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you ever see Oswald operate an automobile?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No; I had the impression that he didn't know how to drive and I was quite surprised----

Mr. Jenner.

What gave you the impression that he didn't know how to drive?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I couldn't swear to that, but I think I asked him "Do you know how to drive an automobile? Why don't you buy yourself an automobile" I remember saying.

Mr. Jenner.

Where would he get the money?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Well, you know you can buy a car for $20, or $30, some old wreck, and somebody with any mechanical ability could fix it.

Mr. Jenner.

What was his response to that?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I have the impression that he said that he didn't know how to drive, but I couldn't swear to that. And naturally Marina was needling him all the time to buy an automobile.

Mr. Jenner.

Oh, she was?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; she was.

Mr. Jenner.

You have a definite impression?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. A definite impression of that. She was needling him.

Mr. Jenner.

Apart from an impression, as a matter of fact you were present and knew she was needling him to purchase an automobile.
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I could almost swear to that, but again it is so vague I could not recall the exact words, you see.

Mr. Jenner.

But you do have a definite impression of that?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes, I have a definite impression of that. I might have put it in her mind you know. Either my wife or I might have put it in her mind because it is incomprehensible to live in Texas without an automobile. It is not like New York. They were completely isolated where they were living, you see.

Mr. Jenner.

And you were suggesting it.
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I might have suggested it.

Mr. Jenner.

Because of that.
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Or my wife.

Mr. Jenner.

What impression, if you have any, do you have with respect to his sexual habits? Did you ever have any thoughts?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

As to whether he was a homosexual?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No.

Mr. Jenner.

He was not in your opinion?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I don't think so, I think he was an asexual person, asexual, and as I told you before, Marina was bitterly complaining about her lack of satisfaction. This is really the time that we decided just to drop them you see. One of the reasons you see we decided not to see them again, because we both found it revolting, such a discussion of marital habits in front of relative strangers as we were, see.

Mr. Jenner.

And this occurred more than once?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. You see this occurred probably in the first period when we knew Oswald. You know there was a first period when we knew them, until about October. Then we didn't see them any more, and I think it was caused by many factors you know. We just got tired of them. We didn't like them. We did not like this particular remark about sex life, and other things you know. We just were not interested in them, and then the fact that she returned back to Oswald, see what I mean, after we had taken her away from him, that she went back to him that disgusted us.
We told her, "Now we helped you. We are not going to do anything more about you." And we didn't see them in October, November, December, see.

Mr. Jenner.

Except for this party?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Except for the party, and then Christmas came and

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