Mr. Jenner.

Is that right?

Mr. Evans.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

May?

Mr. Evans.

Around May.

Mr. Jenner.

May of 1963?

Mr. Evans.

Yes, sir; we were eating breakfast at the time, I think, and I was about. to leave for work, because I was due at work pretty soon, but my wife talked to him and showed him around later, she told me, and she helped him get an apartment.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you notice anything unusual about Lee when you first met him that day?

Mr. Evans.

Well, when I shook hands with him, his hand was so soft; it was just like there was nothing there, no bones or anything.

Mr. Jenner.

A fishy handshake, was it?

Mr. Evans.

That's right; just soft, like no bones in his hand; that's the way he shook hands.

Mr. Jenner.

You mean he didn't have a firm handclasp; is that right?

Mr. Evans.

That's right. His hand was not solid, like the average person that you shake hands with. It was soft. I had understood that he had been fooling around with machinery, but he didn't have the hand of a mechanic.

Mr. Jenner.

Had you heard anything about him before he came to your house that day?

Mr. Evans.

You mean in connection with this Cuban thing?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes; anything about that?

Mr. Evans.

No; that came after that.

Mr. Jenner.

All right; we'll get to that in a minute. When he got to your apartment, he rang the bell, and your wife let him in; is that right?

Mr. Evans.

Yes; she answered the door?

Mr. Jenner.

She answered the door?

Mr. Evans.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he make an inquiry about an apartment, as to whether he could find one, or what?

Mr. Evans.

Yes; he did, and she said to come on in, and he came in, and they sat down and we talked a few minutes before I had to leave.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you and your wife recognize him then?

Mr. Evans.

Oh, yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Immediately?

Mr. Evans.

He hadn't changed. He was talking a little more. I noticed that right away, and about his physical appearance, though, it was about the same, except that he was taller, but you could tell it was the same Lee Oswald.

Mr. Jenner.

You recognized him right away; is that right?

Mr. Evans.

Yes; I recognized him. We talked for a little bit, but I had to leave after we had had a couple of shots of coffee, because I had to get to work. I was on my way, in fact, when he came to the door; so I didn't get to see him for very long that morning. When I left, my wife was talking to him about the possibilities of getting him an apartment, and at that point I had to leave. I left then and went to the office. Later that day my wife told me that she had found him an apartment, and she also told me that he told her that he had found a job with the Reily Coffee Co.

Mr. Jenner.

He had found a job with the Reily Coffee Co.?

Mr. Evans.

That's what my wife told me he said, and she said he seemed to be very happy about it, because he was going to bring his wife over from Texas, and they were going to live here in an apartment, and my wife said he wanted to call her right away, as soon as they found the apartment, and that a friend was going to drive her over.

Mr. Jenner.

Did your wife question him in your presence about his alleged attempt to defect to Russia, and whether or not he had renounced his American citizenship?

Mr. Evans.

Well, yes; she did ask him about that, but he denied it. He said he was only a tourist in Russia, or something like that. He said he just wanted to see the country and how they lived, and that he did not intend to ever give up his American citizenship. The next thing we knew, we were watching television,