Mr. Evans.

and his picture came on there, as big as life, and it showed him passing out leaflets or something. I think it was on Canal Street--no; I think that was on Bolivar. Anyway, the signs read, "Free Cuba," or something like that.

Mr. Jenner.

Could that have been "Fair Play for Cuba"?

Mr. Evans.

That's right.

Mr. Jenner.

What was your reaction when you saw this on the screen?

Mr. Evans.

Well, we didn't know what to think; whether he was in this by himself, or whether he had accomplices, or what, and my wife had planned to go up and visit his wife up at their apartment up on Magazine, but after that came on the screen, and all, she decided not to go. She said she didn't know what he was getting himself involved in, but that she had better not go up there, and she didn't.

Mr. Jenner.

Then neither you nor your wife visited them at their apartment on Magazine Street; is that right?

Mr. Evans.

That's right.

Mr. Jenner.

You did not?

Mr. Evans.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

And they never did visit you after that, either; is that right?

Mr. Evans.

That's right. They didn't visit us, and we didn't visit them.

Mr. Jenner.

Was there any discussion of President Kennedy at this breakfast that you had with your wife and Lee that morning he first showed up--at least, before you left for work?

Mr. Evans.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

Was anything like that mentioned at all as long as you were there, at least?

Mr. Evans.

No. Like I said, I just finished a cup of coffee and left. I had to get to the office.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you ever see Lee Oswald in any fits of temper, so to speak?

Mr. Evans.

No; I didn't. I never did actually see anything like that, but I could hear him all right, the way he would shout at his mother and so forth. I mean, but I never did actually see him at times like that. He would be up in the apartment. From what I could hear, though, I could tell that he was very demanding of her.

Mr. Jenner.

Very demanding of his mother?

Mr. Evans.

Yes; he was.

Mr. Jenner.

What other impressions did you have of this boy?

Mr. Evans.

Well, I thought he was a psycho, I really did. He was so young to be acting the way he did. Of course, there is no doubt that his mother really spoiled him. She would do just about anything he wanted, if it was possible to be done, like giving him money or anything like that, and I understand that he was the cause of his mother's divorce from Ekdahl. Ekdahl said that Lee was more demanding of his mother than he was, and he was her husband.

Mr. Jenner.

You had the impression that Lee came between her and Mr. Ekdahl?

Mr. Evans.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Give me your impression of Marguerite Oswald.

Mr. Evans.

Marguerite?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mr. Evans.

I think she's a fine woman, myself, a fine woman; intelligent, very soft spoken--a beautiful woman, with black hair streaked with a little gray, but when you saw her on television since this thing happened, she really looked awful; nothing at all like she used to look. She has really aged. She looked like a charwoman, compared to what she used to look like. She used to be a fashion plate. She dressed beautifully, but when we saw her on television just recently, after all this happened, she looked awful. There's no other way to describe it, the change that has come over her. You wouldn't have recognized her if they hadn't told you who she was; she looked that different. Where her hair used to be black, now it's entirely gray, and she really looks old.

Mr. Jenner.

Well, she's 57, I believe.

Mr. Evans.

That's right; she's the same age as my wife, but she looks about 70 now. That's about all I can remember about her, and then I saw this thing