Mrs. Voshinin.

It didn't trouble us actually, because we knew very little of his business and we just were not very much interested in his business affairs--but we just noticed that he was traveling to Texas.

Mr. Jenner.

To Houston?

Mrs. Voshinin.

I mean to Houston. Right.

Mr. Jenner.

Were these regular?

Mrs. Voshinin.

Quite regular. And usually it would coincide, somehow, with his next assignment. You see, you asked me to think at that time, prior to November 22, 1963. At that time, it did not bother us at all. We just didn't give much thought to that.

Mr. Jenner.

But you noticed it?

Mrs. Voshinin.

We noticed it definitely. Yes. Because he was always expecting some telephone calls from Houston. If they would be at our house, for example, she would tell me that he give our telephone number, you know, to call him--and it would be from Houston.
But he also was traveling so extensively that it was absolutely impossible to remember everywhere where he went. I know that he went a lot to New York on business; he went a lot to Philadelphia on his private business--private life. Of course, that would include Dee Dee Sharples---concerning his third wife and children. They had disagreement there.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you and your husband have occasion to discuss these Houston trips recently?

Mrs. Voshinin.

Yes; recently. And we discussed also those Houston trips before November 22--because our friends, the Jitkoffs, they mentioned to us that they don't like George at all and they didn't want us to bring him to their house. And I asked why, and she didn't want to tell exactly why, but she said something about some people some character whom he is visiting in Houston.

Mr. Jenner.

Character?

Mrs. Voshinin.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

What did you gather from that? Did she use the word "character"?

Mrs. Voshinin.

Yes; Teep [phonetic] is "type" in Russia. That means "character" in English. You know, it means type of a person.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes; I appreciate what you mean by character--but what kind of a person?

Mrs. Voshinin.

Well, unsavory character.

Mr. Jenner.

Unsavory character?

Mrs. Voshinin.

I understood politically unsavory.

Mr. Jenner.

Politically unsavory?

Mrs. Voshinin.

Right. That's what I understood.
And also Mr. and Mrs. Jitkoff, on several occasions, expressed surprise that we became friendly with De Mohrenschildts again--and I assumed that it was on the basis of his visiting this particular person in Houston.

Mr. Jenner.

Did they name the person?

Mrs. Voshinin.

I don't remember their naming the person; no. But she said something--I just don't remember, really, what she said. But we thought that the Jitkoffs don't know George De Mohrenschildt too well, you know, and that's why they might be little bit exaggerating, you know, the bad character of George. Because, if you know him well, you can see why he thinks. [laughing]

Mr. Jenner.

Did it occur to you or your husband, now that you reflect on the matter, that the trips to Houston could possibly have had some connection with Oswald?

Mrs. Voshinin.

Never. No. In fact, we didn't think of Oswald very much.

Mr. Jenner.

I am talking about your rationalizing last night or----

Mrs. Voshinin.

No. It never did. No. I was quite certain that it had something to do with his Haitian assignment. It was rather business trips.

Mr. Jenner.

But you do know that you were not aware of what the character of his business was in Houston, if he had any?

Mrs. Voshinin.

No; I don't know.

Mr. Jenner.

You just assumed he had business in Houston?

Mrs. Voshinin.

Yes. That's right.