Mr. Jenner.

Mohrenschildt said to you, "They had a very nice apartment in Russia?" What did you think they had?

Mrs. Voshinin.

I didn't think of apartment. I immediately thought of why must they have it. I thought maybe he had a roomette with a bath and kitchen. Something like that, you know. Certainly not nice according to our standards here. That's for sure. But there was another little thing. Marina supposedly mentioned that Russians did not like him; that his workers actually hated him.
And that was another hint to me that why did they hate him? Usually, Russians are very cosmopolitan people, you know. They like foreigners. Now, why would they hate a guy? And I come to conclusion that maybe he reported on them---or something like that. You know, little by little but do you understand, sir, that everything I say, taken separately, doesn't mean anything, probably. But you just put it together and it sort of tells something to us, you know.

Mr. Jenner.

You go right ahead. What you put together and what impresses you, little by little by little, is helpful to me in bringing out the bases upon which you had these views and opinions. So, don't be embarrassed about it or hesitant. I want you to say, in giving these impressions, why, what you base them on--and I understand that you are rationalizing.

Mrs. Voshinin.

Yeah; that's right.

Mr. Jenner.

Excuse me. Did you want to ask a question, Mr. Davis?

Mr. Davis.

Do you recall if George De Mohrenschildt ever mentioned to you the fact that the Oswalds had been in Moscow for any period of time?

Mrs. Voshinin.

No; he never did.

Mr. Davis.

You don't recall anything about them being in Moscow?

Mrs. Voshinin.

I don't remember anyone mentioning them being in Moscow. Wasn't this in some magazine or newspaper---or maybe his mother mentioned it--his being in Moscow? Didn't she? I think his mother mentioned this in connection with his seeing some CIA man with the American Embassy in Moscow. I believe I did read something somewhere. Some of her gossip, you know.

Mr. Jenner.

Some of her gossip?

Mrs. Voshinin.

Yeah.

Mr. Jenner.

I would like to have you, when you're giving us these impressions, however, give us your impressions as you had them as of the time----

Mrs. Voshinin.

Yeah.

Mr. Jenner.

And not influenced by what you have learned and read since November 22, 1963.

Mrs. Voshinin.

Yeah; uh-huh.

Mr. Jenner.

And that's what you are doing, is it not?

Mrs. Voshinin.

Right.

Mr. Jenner.

Fine.
We interrupted you. You were relating your rationalization as to your fear or aversion to this person known as Lee Oswald, who had been in Russia and had come to America with his wife and child----

Mrs. Voshinin.

Yeah.

Mr. Jenner.

And why, in your mind at this time about which you speak, you were fearful that despite Mr. De Mohrenschildt's attempted reassurances to you that he, Oswald, wasn't acting like a person who was free of Russia, so to speak, and had an aversion to Russia, who you expected to be doing some things, here, such as lecturing and what-not, and these were things he wasn't doing--from which you concluded you had some misgivings, at least.

Mrs. Voshinin.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. And have you recounted all of that now?

Mrs. Voshinin.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

You have completed your rationalizing statement in that connection?

Mrs. Voshinin.

Yes; right.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. Mrs. Voshinin, was there a period of time or a series of occasions that troubled you and your husband with respect to the activities of Mr. De Mohrenschildt and also his present wife with respect to trips to Houston, Tex.?