Mrs. Voshinin.

According to George, he was a great---he had great intellectual power; he was very clever person---definitely intellectually inclined and very well-read person; and that he was--he couldn't find a job. Now, wouldn't that be natural for an intellectual person to go get his living lecturing against communism?

Mr. Jenner.

Were you harkening back to your own history----

Mrs. Voshinin.

Yes. I might have done it if I hadn't had my own profession.

Mr. Jenner.

That you were able to obtain positions?

Mrs. Voshinin.

Everybody would be able to to obtain a position. Khokhlov, he was in Washington, D.C., even, I believe. I don't remember exactly what he was. But, anyway, all those people not only expressed their beliefs and shared their beliefs publicly, you know, with other people----

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mrs. Voshinin.

But--the other point was that it would really help Oswald materially, don't you think so, in a material way? He would earn some money. Other people were earning their living by lecturing on anti-Communistic talk. So, why did he have to sit jobless or to go to the factory--or whatever he did, I don't know exactly, whatever work he worked--instead of going and lecturing, which he never did. Right?

Mr. Jenner.

Right.

Mrs. Voshinin.

From what we heard of him he never expressed himself for being anti-Communist, We remember that. We never heard a word of this.

Mr. Jenner.

Did it ever occur to you that his knowledge and his learning was entirely superficial and he didn't have the capacity to lecture?

Mrs. Voshinin.

Not never. Because George was so emphatic about his mental powers, about his erudition, education, you know, that it really never occurred to me. I thought that he was an intellectual, very well read. Because George said that many times. He said, "He's a very interesting person, he's very well read, a very intelligent person."

Mr. Jenner.

Did you ever argue this with De Mohrenschildt--say, "Well, why doesn't he lecture? I don't understand this?"

Mrs. Voshinin.

I remember I did ask that--and I don't remember the exact answer. Whatever it was, I don't remember. But, as far as I remember, they said something that maybe from the gratitude to Russia, or something like that, he doesn't want to do that, and said they'd leave that up to him.

Mr. Davis.

Did George De Mohrenschildt ever mention that Oswald spoke fluent Russian?

Mrs. Voshinin.

Yes; he did. Uh-huh. He said that Oswald spoke very good Russian.

Mr. Davis.

Did he ever discuss where he learned to speak Russian so fluently?

Mrs. Voshinin.

No; in fact, he did not discuss or quote I don't remember him discussing extensively Oswald's background or quoting what Oswald said about what. I tried to remember it yesterday very hard, you know, but just couldn't. I just don't remember.

Mr. Davis.

I wonder if I might ask an opinion of you here? If he were working, say, in a factory or in normal pursuits in Russia for, say, 2 years, would it be possible to become that fluent in Russian--just from the fact of working--just from the fact of working there?

Mrs. Voshinin.

I think so. Yes; I think so--because, after all, you rub shoulders with Russian workers, you know, so you're in it all the time. It's good that you ask the question, because there was one more suspicious thing about Oswald. According to hearsay, his wife said that Oswald had a very nice apartment in Russia--modern apartment, And they just don't give such apartments to anybody. You know, they usually have to earn that to get it.

Mr. Davis.

Did she tell this to you?

Mrs. Voshinin.

No, sir; I never met her. But I heard from other people I think, Mrs. De Mohrenschildt said that, I believe.

Mr. Davis.

That they had a very nice apartment?

Mrs. Voshinin.

Yes; that they had a very modern, nice apartment in Russia.

Mr. Jenner.

What would a nice apartment in Russia be? Just one room?

Mrs. Voshinin.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

What concept did you have in your mind when Mrs. De