Mr. Bouhe.

for Russian boots for generations, which were originally all leather and protected you against the wintry blasts, rain and so on-- were now of duck or canvas printed black. Well, from a distance. if looked like a pair of high leather boots, but they were awful, and even he, in a strange moment said, "They are no good."

Mr. Liebeler.

Did he tell you how much they cost?

Mr. Bouhe.

If I am not mistaken, 19 rubles, but I would not swear to that.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you continue those discussions and have him go through the entire 90 rubles as to what he spent it on?

Mr. Bouhe.

That very same evening I noticed that he didn't like to talk about it, but since he was in a nice home maybe he was polite on one of his rare occasions.

Mr. Liebeler.

This conversation all took place at the home of Peter Gregory?

Mr. Bouhe.

In the home of Mr. Gregory. I asked him, "Now 90 rubles you got. Rent is free. Boots are 19 rubles--and I can't imagine what it is in Minsk when it rains--what about the food?"
And that figure I remember distinctly.
In the cafeteria or whatever that was where the laborers eat, it cost him, he said, 45 rubles a month to eat. So 19 and 45, and just to mention a couple of items, I didn't go any further because either he was lying or else he was going without shoes and coats or something because there was not enough money left to buy.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you ask him whether the 90 rubles of which he spoke was all the money he received while he was in Russia?

Mr. Bouhe.

I did not ask that question; no.

Mr. Liebeler.

But it appeared to you from this discussion that he must have received more or else he was going without certain items, is that correct?

Mr. Bouhe.

Well, it would so appear, but I could not ask him. I said, "90 minus 45, minus 19, what is left?"
No answer.
But I could not press him because it was a social gathering and I couldn't cross-examine.

Mr. Liebeler.

You never discussed that question with him subsequently, is that correct?

Mr. Bouhe.

Not his budget. I did discuss the cost of other items. For instance, he had a portable radio.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you see that?

Mr. Bouhe.

Yes; I did. Most awful production. He also had a Gramophone and records.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you ask him how much the radio cost?

Mr. Bouhe.

If I did, I don't remember. I probably did, but I honestly don't remember. But it was a small one. I had somebody to look at it and he said it is a most awful construction.
But anyway, I also saw a pair of shoes of Marina's which she bought there, and I would say they were not worth much as far as the wearing qualities are concerned, but how much they paid for it, I don't know. And what she was earning, I do not know.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you discuss with Oswald his membership in a hunting club in the Soviet Union?

Mr. Bouhe.

I never discussed a membership in any organization or hunting club. But I now remember that when I asked him after the week's work is done, what do you do--"Well, the boys and I go and hunt duck."
And he said, "ducklings". The reason why I remember it is because he didn't say "duck," but he said in Russian the equivalent of "duckys-duckys".

Mr. Liebeler.

He used the Russian word that was not the precise word to describe duck?

Mr. Bouhe.

Yes; but a man going shooting would not use it. He spoke in Russian and did not try to get the Russian word exactly.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did he tell you how many times he went hunting?

Mr. Bouhe.

No. sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did he tell you whether he owned a gun?

Mr. Bouhe.

There?