Mr. Liebeler.

Yes; in the Soviet Union.

Mr. Bouhe.

No, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did he tell you whether he had to pay any charges in connection with his hunting trips?

Mr. Bouhe.

No; never asked. Was never told.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did Oswald tell you anything about the details of his trip to indicate that he actually had gone hunting, that you can remember?

Mr. Bouhe.

No, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you believe him when he told you he had gone hunting?

Mr. Bouhe.

I thought of him as a simpleton, but at that time I had no reason to suspect his lying.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now as far as you knew, he did actually go hunting when he was in Russia?

Mr. Bouhe.

That is what he said.

Mr. Liebeler.

That didn't surprise you at that time?

Mr. Bouhe.

No; that is one of the occupations.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now, did he ever discuss with you his relation with the Soviet Government, how he got along with them and what he thought of the Soviet Government?

Mr. Bouhe.

I have never asked him. He never volunteered it. And much as I'd like to assist you further, I swear again I never discussed or heard him volunteer any such thing.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did he tell you why he decided to come back from Russia?

Mr. Bouhe.

He did say once, and I hate to talk about a dead man, what I thought shedding a crocodile tear, "It would be good for my daughter to be brought up in the United States."

Mr. Liebeler.

Is that the only reason that he ever told you about why he wanted to come back to the United States?

Mr. Bouhe.

Substantially. I cannot think of anything else besides the fact that most of us who spoke with him have an impression, and the Russian people are very subject to easy impressions, is that Marina was hell-bent to go out of the Soviet Union and into America.
And I think one of the ladies said "Why," and I remember through third hand a report reached me, "I always wanted to have a room of my own."

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember who told you that?

Mr. Bouhe.

Mrs. Anna Meller.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you get the impression that Marina married Oswald just to get out of the Soviet Union?

Mr. Bouhe.

I cannot say that that was the only reason.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you think it was one of the reasons?

Mr. Bouhe.

Oh, yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did she tell you that?

Mr. Bouhe.

She was saying Marina wanted to come to America.

Mr. Liebeler.

And you gathered the impression that that was one of the reasons why Marina married Oswald?

Mr. Bouhe.

Only after.

Mr. Liebeler.

Well, did you gain an impression as to whether Marina wanted to marry Oswald, that that was one of the reasons why she married Oswald?

Mr. Bouhe.

That is my impression. My impression. But I wasn't there.

Mr. Liebeler.

You don't remember anyone telling you that that was one of the reasons? That is to say, neither Marina or Oswald told you?

Mr. Bouhe.

. Certainly not Oswald. But just a minute, much as I'd like to say, I do not recall a direct statement to that effect, but Marina liked to look at magazines, she said, and Cadillacs and iceboxes and this and that, and from what I understood her talk, she was just itching to get in on that. Now that is my impression, and God strike me if I say something wrong about her, but that is my impression.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did Oswald tell you that he traveled inside the Soviet Union while he was there?

Mr. Bouhe.

I do not recall any mention or conversation.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did he ever tell you that he had gone to Moscow on two or three different occasions from Minsk?