Mrs. Murret.

a rainy day, and John and this girl friend--we were all in the front room, so to pass the time, they were passing notes to one another, and so the next day she told me about that, and she said that they were passing notes about her, so I questioned John about it, and he laughed. He has a very good disposition, and he laughed and he said, "Well, of all things," and he said, "We were passing notes telling each other what our bad traits are." He said, "She would pass me a note telling me about a bad trait I had, and then I would pass a note back to her and tell her a bad trait that she had." They were getting a big bang out of that, but Marguerite was under the impression that they were talking about her, and so I told her, I said, "Well, I believe John," and she said, "Do you believe everything they tell you?" and I said, "Yes; I believe what they tell me." Now, this was just last fall that was.

Mr. Jenner.

Was that just this last fall, in October?

Mrs. Murret.

No. Now, John was married in October, but I hadn't seen--this was quite a while previous to that--maybe 2 years.

Mr. Jenner.

Oh, this incident occurred then back in 1961, would you say?

Mrs. Murret.

About the time Lee defected to Russia. Probably about that time, or after.

Mr. Jenner.

Was it after 1959? That's when Oswald defected.

Mrs. Murret.

Let's see. I can't remember when that was now.

Mr. Jenner.

He was mustered out in September of 1959, and he went to Russia right after that.

Mrs. Murret.

I just can't remember that.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, would you tell me about the Oswald marriage?

Mrs. Murret.

Well, I knew Lee Oswald. He was an insurance collector on my route.

Mr. Jenner.

Lee Oswald was an insurance collector?

Mrs. Murret.

For Metropolitan; yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

He collected insurance premiums?

Mrs. Murret.

For the Metropolitan Life Insurance Co.

Mr. Jenner.

Was that weekly or monthly, or what?

Mrs. Murret.

Weekly or monthly or yearly, sometimes semiannually, and so forth. He collected policy payments for them. He was a very good insurance man, I think.

Mr. Jenner.

He was an energetic man?

Mrs. Murret.

He was.

Mr. Jenner.

When you first knew him, he was married; is that right?

Mrs. Murret.

No; he was already divorced from his wife when he collected in my area.

Mr. Jenner.

He was already divorced from his wife?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Had he had any children of that marriage?

Mrs. Murret.

I don't think he did.

Mr. Jenner.

What is your recollection as to how Lee Oswald and Marguerite became acquainted?

Mrs. Murret.

Well, I guess he just liked Marguerite enough to marry her, and I believe Oswald was a Catholic--I'm not too sure of that--and Marguerite was a Lutheran, so he had to leave his church, naturally.

Mr. Jenner.

He had to leave the church?

Mrs. Murret.

Because he was divorced; yes. He was not recognized in the Catholic church. He couldn't receive the sacraments, in other words. He could go to mass.

Mr. Jenner.

He happened to be Catholic?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Are you Catholic?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes; I am.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. So am I, and I just wondered if you were. Go ahead.

Mrs. Murret.

So they were married in a Lutheran Church, Lee Oswald and Marguerite. They were married at the Lutheran Church on Canal Street.

Mr. Jenner.

I was going to ask you what your family was by way of religion. You are Catholic.

Mrs. Murret.

Yes.