Mr. Jenner.

Tell me some more about that. You said she was unable to get along with people. Now, I would like to know more about that, just as you recall it, any incident that might have happened or anything that you noticed about Marguerite in connection with any incidents like that.

Mrs. Murret.

Well, I mean, if people don't do things right, maybe it's because they have been doing some wrong things which they had no control over or something, you see what I mean, but at other times things might occur where they weren't wrong, and if she didn't see eye to eye with you, then you couldn't reason with her about it. You couldn't explain things to her, I mean. If she thought differently, then you were just wrong.

Mr. Jenner.

And she was sufficiently vociferous about it?

Mrs. Murret.

She 'was very independent, in other words. She was very independent. She didn't think she needed anyone at any time, I don't think, because no matter how much anyone would try to help her or how much they would try to do for her, she never thought that anyone was actually helping her. So often I have helped her out, quite a lot of times, but sooner or later it seemed like she would just take one little word or something that she would think was wrong, and we would have these little differences.

Mr. Jenner.

You mean she would fly off the handle, so to speak?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes; she would fly off, and go and that was it, and when she would do that you wouldn't hear from her or anything, and all you could do was just let things ride until she would come to New Orleans again, or something like that, and then usually she would call or if accidentally I would meet her on the street or something, and I would go ahead and give her help again.

Mr. Jenner.

It would occur that when she would fly off the handle sometimes you wouldn't see her for a while?

Mrs. Murret.

Oh, yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Is that about the pattern of what happened when these incidents would arise?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes; I think so.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you make efforts to get along with her, since you were the older sister and really head of the family?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes; I did.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you try to mollify her and tell her that she shouldn't act that way?

Mrs. Murret.

Well, that was all in later years. That was after her marriage and after my marriage, naturally. She might not like something my children were doing and so forth, and I told her that I always believed my children, whatever they told me. She asked me if I did that, and I said yes; I did, and that I had reason to believe them. I had faith in them, and I felt they would always do the right thing.

Mr. Jenner.

She questioned that?

Mrs. Murret.

With me, yes; I mean, about the children.

Mr. Jenner.

She questioned you to the extent that she thought it was unwise, or she didn't get it that you should have faith in your children?

Mrs. Murret.

That's right. She told me at one time, and I can remember this incident that happened if you want me to tell it.

Mr. Jenner.

Go ahead and tell me about it.

Mrs. Murret.

The incident was just recently, I may say. My son John was just married October 5.

Mr. Jenner.

Of what year?

Mrs. Murret.

,This year, 1963--this past year.

Mr. Jenner.

Your son John?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes; well, she was over at the house----

Mr. Jenner.

Who are you talking about now?

Mrs. Murret.

Marguerite.

Mr. Jenner.

All right Marguerite was over at the house, and what happened?

Mrs. Murret.

Before he married this girl that he did-marry, there was a young lady that he would invite over to our home quite often, you see, so Marguerite was over at the house at that time.

Mr. Jenner.

You are talking about your house?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes; my house; and she was just visiting alone, and it was