Mr. Jenner.

Have you always been Catholic?

Mrs. Murret.

Well, not always. I wasn't always a Catholic. My father was Catholic, and my mother was a Lutheran, and we were baptized in the Lutheran religion.

Mr. Jenner.

You were baptized in the Lutheran religion?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes; and my father, who was Catholic, he always saw that we went to Sunday school.

Mr. Jenner.

He would see to it that you went to the Lutheran Sunday school, to the Lutheran church?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes; he did. I always thought of my father as St. Joseph. I don't know why, but I guess it was because he was so close to us children. He would take us on Christmas eve night over to church, and he probably did a lot better than a lot of women do today with a family.

Mr. Jenner.

Well, he was undoubtedly quite a tolerant man then.

Mrs. Murret.

Oh, yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Your mother had begun to rear her children as Lutherans, so he continued that?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes; he did.

Mr. Jenner.

He didn't attempt to induce any of you to become converted?

Mrs. Murret.

No. John Pic---rather, Eddie Pic was a Lutheran too. About the marriage to Lee Oswald, she seemed to be happy. He had everything she wanted. They lived on Taft Place in the City Park section, and then after that they built a home on Alvar Street. That was a new section then. Right now it looks awful, but at that time it was a growing section, and this was a new house, a little single house right opposite a school, and it was a very nice place.

Mr. Jenner.

What's the name of the school?

Mrs. Murret.

William T. Frantz, they call it.

Mr. Jenner.

How do you spell Frantz?

Mrs. Murret.

F-R-A-N-T-Z, I think it is.

Mr. Jenner.

There were two children born of that marriage; is that right?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes, sir; two children, Robert, and then Lee was born after his father died.

Mr. Jenner.

Well, his father died in August 1939, and Lee was born on October 18, 1939, about 2 months after; is that right?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes. Lee Oswald wanted to adopt John Edward, but my sister wouldn't hear to an adoption by him, because she said he had a father, and she was receiving this allotment for him from him, and she didn't want to change his name.

Mr. Jenner.

When she married Lee Oswald, I assume her alimony terminated, did it?

Mrs. Murret.

I think so, but John still received his.

Mr. Jenner.

The child support continued?

Mrs. Murret.

Oh, yes; now, what came in between there is what I started to tell you, about John Pic. That was after she married Oswald. There was a colored girl working in the grocery store, and John was in there he was about 2 or a little over 2 at the time, and this young woman was in the store----

Mr. Jenner.

Let me interrupt you there a moment. When you say John, are you referring to John Pic?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes; that was the Pic child, and this colored woman was working in the store you see, Marguerite didn't have any children then, because she was just recently married or something, so this young woman said to John--he was just a baby, and she said, "You're a cute little boy. What's your name?" And he said, "My name is John Edward Pit," like a child will do, drawing it out so that everybody could hear it, and she asked this colored girl, "Whose child is this?" and the colored girl told her, "That's Mrs. Oswald's boy," so that's how that happened. I gather that she didn't know anything about the Pic child, and so forth, so anyway, this young woman went home and she told her mother-that a very strange thing had happened in the grocery store, and she said there was a darling lithe child in there, and she asked him his name and he said he was John Edward Pic, and she said, "By any chance, do you think he would be related to Eddie?" And she had married Eddie, and Eddie didn't tell her that he had a child, or that he was married or anything, and then this marriage