Mr. Holmes.

That is the general practice. The theory being, I have a box. I have a brother come to visit me. My brother would have my same name---well, a cousin. You can get mail in there. They are not too strict. You don't have to file that third portion to get service for other people there. I imagine they might have questioned him a little bit when they handed it out to him, but I don't know. It depends on how good he is at answering questions, and everything would be all right.

Mr. Liebeler.

So that the package would have come in addressed to Hidell at Post Office Box 2915, and a notice would have been put in the post office box without regard to who was authorized to receive mail from it?

Mr. Holmes.

Actually, the window where you get the box is all the way around the corner and a different place from the box, and the people that box the mail, and in theory---I am surmising now, because nobody knows. I have questioned everybody, and they have no recollection. The man would take this card out. There is nothing on this card. There is no name on it, not even a box number on it. He comes around and says, "I got this out of my box." And he says, "What box?" "Box number so and so." They look in a bin where they have this by box numbers, and whatever the name on it, whatever they gave him, he just hands him the package, and that is all there is to it.

Mr. Liebeler.

Ordinarily, they won't even request any identification because they would assume if he got the notice out of the box, he was entitled to it?

Mr. Holmes.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

It is very possible that that in fact is what happened in case?

Mr. Holmes.

That is in theory. I would assume that is what happened.

Mr. Liebeler.

On the other hand, it is also possible that Oswald had actually authorized Hidell to receive mail through the box?

Mr. Holmes.

Could have been. And on the other hand, he had this identification card of Hidell's in his billfold, which he could have produced and showed the window clerk. Either way, he got it.

Mr. Liebeler.

Right. I believe I am correct in my understanding that when Mr. Belin took your testimony previously, that you did mark as exhibits the various forms that Oswald had filled out here in the Post Office Department in Dallas; isn't that right?

Mr. Holmes.

You mean the box rent application?

Mr. Liebeler.

Yes.

Mr. Holmes.

I have long since given them to the FBI. However, I endorsed them at the time I gave them to the FBI.

Mr. Liebeler.

I can't remember.

Mr. Holmes.

I will show you a photocopy maybe.

Mr. Liebeler.

The basic thrust of my question is that you have given the originals of the documents to the FBI?

Mr. Holmes.

I have the receipts, except for Ruby's box, which nobody ever asked me for, and I still have them. That is Ruby's box at the Terminal Annex.

Mr. Liebeler.

Well, that is not a part of the record so far. We should mark it as a part of the record now. Are you required to keep this in your records?

Mr. Holmes.

If you will give me a receipt for it. I have a photocopy.

Mr. Liebeler.

It is quite as legible, the photocopy, so why don't I just mark the photocopy and you keep the original?

Mr. Holmes.

Okay.

Mr. Liebeler.

I have initialed the photocopy, and I would like to have you initial it also for the purpose of identification, and we will mark that as Holmes Exhibit No. 2-A on your deposition of July 23, 1964, a photocopy of a post office box application in the name of Jack Ruby, dated November 1, 1963. Post Office Box No. 5475, and as I understand it, this was an application that was made at the Terminal Annex here in Dallas, is that correct?

Mr. Holmes.

That is right.

Mr. Liebeler.

Is there any way in which we can tell from just looking at it, or that is something you know from having gotten the copy from the Terminal Annex?

Mr. Holmes.

The box number categories are set out for each station that comes within that bracket. The applications don't tell you what post office it is