Mr. Liebeler.

My understanding is that an application for a post office box comes in three separate parts. Do you have----
(Mr. Holmes hand's paper to attorney.)

Mr. Liebeler.

You have, in fact, handed me a sample of such an application.

Mr. Holmes.

I thought you might want one, so I brought one along.

Mr. Liebeler.

That was very good, And we will mark this as Holmes Exhibit No. 1-A on your deposition of July 23, 1964. I have put my initials on the corner after I have marked it. Would you initial it, too, for the purpose of identification?
(Mr. Holmes initials.)

Mr. Liebeler.

What is the ordinary procedure that is followed when a box is rented and this form is used?

Mr. Holmes.

The form is completed, usually by the applicant, and it must be signed by the applicant, even if an employee does complete it. This portion of the---I don't know how you want to designate it.

Mr. Liebeler.

We will number them portions 1, 2, and 3.

Mr. Holmes.

All right, part I of this application is simply the instructions on a combination box, and instructions to the patron is torn off, and he keeps it or they throw it away. Portions 2 and 3 are completed, too. 2 gives the applicant's name, the name of his corporation or firm he represents, if applicable, the kind of business, the business address, the home address, and the place for his signature and the date. On the third portion is a box for him to indicate whether he wants all mail in the box, or Just whether he wants some other disposition and so on, and a place for name of person entitled to receive mail through the box other than the applicant himself, and he firs in that. These two portions then remain together in the file of the post office where he made application,

Mr. Liebeler.

That is portions 2 and 3?

Mr. Holmes.

Until he relinquishes the box. They pull this out and endorse it so the box has been closed, and the date and they tear off 3 and throw it away.
It has no more purpose. That is what happened on box 2915.

Mr. Liebeler.

They have thrown part 3 away?

Mr. Holmes.

Yes; as it so happens, even though they closed the box in New Orleans, they still had part 3 and it showed that the mail for Marina Oswald and A. J. Hidell was good in the box. They hadn't complied with regulations. They still had it there.

Mr. Liebeler.

It was a lucky thing.

Mr. Holmes.

We wish they had here.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now is this regulation that says section 3 should be torn off and thrown away, is that a general regulation of the Post Office Department?

Mr. Holmes.

It is in the Post Office Manual Instructions to employees; yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

So there is no way, as I understand it, to tell from the records maintained, as far as you know anyway, who was authorized to receive mail at Post Office Box 2915 that Oswald had while he was here in Dallas before he went to New Orleans in April of 1963; is that correct?

Mr. Holmes.

Other than Oswald himself and his name on the application.

Mr. Liebeler.

Right.

Mr. Holmes.

Now he did tell me in personal interrogation that no one was permitted to get mail in that box but him.

Mr. Liebeler.

He said that same thing about the box in New Orleans, too, didn't he?

Mr. Holmes.

He did at first, and then----

Mr. Liebeler.

Then you showed him portion three of the application and then he changed his story?

Mr. Holmes.

I said how about Marina Oswald, and he said, well, she was my wife. What is wrong with that? And I said how about A. J. Hidell, and he said I don't know anything about that. And I said look here. And he said, well, I don't know.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now supposing that Oswald had not in fact authorized A. J. Hidell to receive mail here in the Dallas box and that a package came addressed to the name of Hidell, which, in fact, one did at Post Office Box 2915, what procedure would be followed when that package came in?

Mr. Holmes.

They would put the notice in the box.

Mr. Liebeler.

Regardless of whose name was associated with the box?