Mr. Holmes.

from. It might be from San Antonio. But I don't know why. What are your initials and name?

Mr. Liebeler.

W. J. L., Wesley J. Liebeler.

Mr. Holmes.

How do you spell your last name?

Mr. Liebeler.

(spelling). L-i-e-b-e-l-e-r.

Mr. Holmes.

Thank you [handing another card to Mr. Liebeler]. I will explain it to you, and you might want to ask me for the record what it is.

Mr. Liebeler.

Yes; you have handed me a postcard, Post Office Department Form 3546, Notice to Change Forwarding Order.

Mr. Holmes.

That is different from our 3575 in that this is simply a forwarding order. This is to change a forwarding order. To interpret it, Lee Oswald, on October 11, 1963, in New Orleans, gave his box 2915 in Dallas as the last address. He had given a forwarding order on this box to this box 30061 in New Orleans on May 14, 1963. Now then, he is again forwarding from this box. Not again, but it is a second forwarding.

Mr. Liebeler.

This would indicate that instructions had been given to forward from box 2915 here in Dallas?

Mr. Holmes.

Direct without going through----

Mr. Liebeler.

This would indicate that all together, he had first issued instructions that mail should be forwarded from box 2915 in Dallas to box 30061 in New Orleans, and this would now indicate that mail was to be forwarded to 2515 West Fifth Street in Irving, Tex.,-and that is dated October 11, 1963. Now, there are several postmarks appearing on this form. There is one Dallas postmark of October 16 on both sides, and there is also a postmark in New Orleans, which is difficult to read, but it is sometime in October. Now you suggested perhaps October 11, 1963. What do you interpret happened with regard to this notice, Post Office Department Form 3546? Can you tell from looking at it where, in the ordinary course of events, he would have first prepared this form?

Mr. Holmes.

That would have been prepared in New Orleans and dropped in the mailbox. He would have prepared that at a station, because they have filled the front in and crossed it out. In fact, they hand these out at the stations. He has gone into the station probably where he had this box. In the normal course of the patron's activities he would have gone into that station where that box is and said, "I want my mail forwarded." All right, fill this out.
It looks like they might have filled it out for him. It doesn't look too much like his writing. But they would have filled this out to show that mail from this box should not be sent to New Orleans, but sent to Irving, so the post office would send that up to Dallas where this box is at the main office, and they would have that on file here.

Mr. Liebeler.

Box 2915, you mean? That address here?

Mr. Holmes.

Here is a photocopy of box 2915 application, and it will show it was closed on May 14, 1963, which is this red figure up here. So when they got that in here in Dallas, they would have put this red mark on there for some reason to show when the box was closed, and then they would keep this in their file as instructions until they got some other instructions.

Mr. Liebeler.

Isn't it possible that this form which, well, do you have a photostatic of this form we have been talking about?

Mr. Holmes.

I don't believe so.

Mr. Liebeler.

Let me mark this original one for the record then, if I may.

Mr. Holmes.

That is all right.

Mr. Liebeler.

I have initialled this Post Office Department Form 3546, which has been marked "Holmes Exhibit No. 3-A on deposition of July 23, 1964," and I would like to have you initial it also for the purpose of identification.
(Mr. Holmes initials.)

Mr. Liebeler.

I want to ask you some more questions about Holmes Exhibit No. 3, which is postmarked, as we have indicated, October 16, in Dallas, and also bears a postmark in New Orleans which I think is October 11.

Mr. Holmes.

My best educated guess is the 11th.

Mr. Liebeler.

Let me come bluntly to the point. My problem is this. Oswald wasn't in New Orleans on October 11. He was in Dallas.

Mr. Holmes.

Now, he could have filled that out here. It could have been mailed to New Orleans for forwarding the mail up from there. He could have