Mr. Liebeler.

And you remember that Congressman Ford specifically, and Mr. Dulles, asked you whether or not you had talked to Mark Lane on the telephone and you told them at that time that you had not talked to Mark Lane?

Mrs. Markham.

No, sir; I have never seen the man. If he was to come in here I wouldn't know who he was.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now, aside from the fact you have never seen the man, you also told the Commission when you were in Washington that you had never talked to him over the telephone?

Mrs. Markham.

Right.

Mr. Liebeler.

Have you talked to Mark Lane over the telephone since you were in Washington, before today?

Mrs. Markham.

No, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

You have never talked to Mark Lane over the telephone?

Mrs. Markham.

No, sir; no, sir. Now, the old lady, and they told me were reporters, came to my house.

Mr. Liebeler.

Right, but you have no recollection of ever talking yourself?

Mrs. Markham.

I never even talked to her even.

Mr. Liebeler.

Well, now, I'll tell you very frankly, that we have a tape recording of a conversation that purports to be a conversation between you and Mark Lane on the telephone and I have a transcript which we will mark as Markham Exhibit No. 1----

Mrs. Markham.

Let me tell you now----

Mr. Liebeler.

I ask you to read the transcript and I will make arrangements----I hadn't thought you would be here until 1 o'clock this afternoon, so I don't have a tape recorder here, but I think I can have the Secret Service bring one over. Would you like to hear the tape, so you can tell us whether or not that is your voice?

Mrs. Markham.

Yes; sure.

Mr. Liebeler.

Let me make arrangements then to have the Secret Service bring the tape recorder on over and we will see if it is your voice.

Mrs. Markham.

I am going to tell you this, now, there was someone--let me tell you this--there was someone one day-- this was all to me--I was scared, and I was, you know, frightened, and one day--now, this brings me back--the memories [referring to the transcript heretofore mentions]. One day on my job there was someone that called, but he told me he was from the city.

Mr. Liebeler.

From here in Dallas?

Mrs. Markham.

That's right; the city hall down here, and this man told me he was---now, I can tell you what he told me he was--he said he was Captain Fritz--over this telephone--Capt. Will Fritz and I know you are familiar with him, maybe. Now, he said he was Captain Fritz with the police department of the city of Dallas.

Mr. Liebeler.

Well, this transcript indicates that someone called a number, a telephone number---do you remember the telephone number at your office where you worked; were you working?

Mrs. Markham.

Yes; I was working down here on Main Street.

Mr. Libeler.

Do you know what the telephone down there is?

Mrs. Markham.

No; I have really forgotten it, but it was over this office phone. It's a Riverside 8 number.

Mr. Liebeler.

Is there such a number as Matthew 7-6797?

Mrs. Markham.

No, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

Or is there such a number as MA 7-6797, is there such a number as that that you know of?

Mrs. Markham.

No, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

This transcript here indicates that some gentleman called this number here, Matthew 7-6797.

Mrs. Markham.

My number at home is Whitehall and this number that I worked at was Riverside 8.

Mr. Libeler.

Well, I think what we should do is have the Secret Service bring a tape recorder here, because I want you to listen to this conversation, and if it is not your voice, we certainly want to know that.

Mrs. Markham.

Sure, and this man--what this man told me--he told me he