Mr. Cabell.

It was his impression, the switchboard operator's impression that it was some long distance.

Mr. Hubert.

That was prior to Oswald's death?

Mr. Cabell.

No; that was following Oswald's death, and that is when he told me that he was sending officers out to maintain security.

Mr. Hubert.

Attached to page 3 it seems to indicate that the call with Curry must have occurred a bit before you received the news of Oswald's shooting?

Mr. Cabell.

The first call from Curry, or only the starting of any conversations with Chief Curry were relative to this torchlight parade on that night. I had called him and told him that I would recommend the cancellation of that Parade. He had granted it, but then I had recommended the cancellation, and I would assume full responsibility for having given that instruction.

Mr. Hubert.

At that time Oswald had not been shot?

Mr. Cabell.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

But on that first call then, was there any discussion between you and Chief Curry about the transfer of Oswald?

Mr. Cabell.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Was there any discussion about the security precautions that were being observed or the problems that they were?

Mr. Cabell.

I do not recall any discussion on that at all.

Mr. Hubert.

Chief Curry did not tell you that any threats had been made to Oswald?

Mr. Cabell.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Now during the period November 22 until the shooting of Oswald, did you have any conversations with the press concerning the whole matter?

Mr. Cabell.

There were a number of calls. There were members of the press, both the national and international press that came to my home during that period. I had given a statement on Friday night to both television stations.

Mr. Hubert.

That was by----

Mr. Cabell.

That was on Friday.

Mr. Hubert.

On television?

Mr. Cabell.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you recall whether any part of those statements or interviews had to do with the transfer of Oswald?

Mr. Cabell.

None whatsoever. There was never any during that period. There was never any mention of that. It was not brought up nor discussed.

Mr. Hubert.

Then later on Sunday morning, I understand after the security call from Chief Curry, there was another call from him with regard to the death of Oswald?

Mr. Cabell.

He called me.

Mr. Hubert.

I mean the shooting of Oswald.

Mr. Cabell.

Yes; the incident referred to here about a friend calling.

Mr. Hubert.

You say "here." You are referring to page 3 of Exhibit No. 1?

Mr. Cabell.

"He received a telephone call from a friend." That friend was Mrs. R. 0. Alexander who said, "Do you have your television on?" And I said, "No." She said, "Get it on quick. They have just shot Oswald." And I immediately turned my television on. I was in the den where I was sitting and taking these telephone calls, and then just as I get it turned on, they still had not removed Oswald at that time because this was just a matter of a minute or 2 from the actual shooting. Then Chief Curry called and said, "They have just shot Oswald." And I said, "Yes; I have it on TV now."

Mr. Hubert.

Was any action taken then by anybody, do you know, concerning, first, security measures or further protection against?

Mr. Cabell.

Nothing to my knowledge.

Mr. Hubert.

I think I have asked this before. If I have, then just disregard it, but did you contact City Manager Crull during the interval?

Mr. Cabell.

No; I did not contact him. Now he came to my home immediately on his return to the city.

Mr. Hubert.

Which was about what time?

Mr. Cabell.

This was, well, it was early afternoon.

Mr. Hubert.

Of the 24th?

Mr. Cabell.

This was on the 24th, on Sunday; yes. It was about 1 o'clock.