Mr. Hubert.

Can you comment upon this Lancaster Smith proposal of a parade?

Mr. Cabell.

Lane Smith is a very well-known, very active lay worker in the Catholic church, and he had called me earlier, and I think the suggestion for this came from some nuns, and when he first talked to me I didn't realize frankly the implications or the hazard of a procession such as that, and I told him--he asked about a permit, and I said that that is a matter that is handled by the chief of police, that he would have to be the one to issue a permit for any type of parade, because that is what that amounted to.

Mr. Hubert.

What was the proposal of Mr. Smith?

Mr. Cabell.

Well, a torchlight procession of both the clergy and any lay people as a procession of mourning that would pass by the site of the assassination and put flowers at the site.

Mr. Hubert.

That was proposed for Sunday night?

Mr. Cabell.

That was proposed for Sunday night, and after having talked with him, then the implications began to dawn on me, and when I realized that that was in a rather poorly lighted area, it is not in the best part of town, and that the procession itself would pass possibly under the very window of the jail where Oswald presumably would be by that time, then that was the reason behind my calling the chief then.
He told me he had issued the permit because he had no reason not to, and then that is when I made the recommendation that it be canceled.

Mr. Hubert.

It was canceled in fact?

Mr. Cabell.

Yes; it was.

Mr. Hubert.

Before Oswald was shot?

Mr. Cabell.

Oh, I think undoubtedly, because he said he would call Lane immediately back.

Mr. Hubert.

When did Lancaster Smith call you?

Mr. Cabell.

I think it must have been around 8 or 9 o'clock in the morning, originally.

Mr. Hubert.

Then you called Chief Curry about what time?

Mr. Cabell.

Must have been very shortly after that. I would say 9 o'clock or possibly a short time after. I believe that it must have been just a little before 10, because I think that he was talking to me in his office at the time word was brought to him that Oswald was shot, or possibly had hung up the phone, or he would have mentioned that to me at the time.

Mr. Hubert.

Because the evidence we now have shows that Oswald was shot about 11:20, so perhaps your time would have been 11 rather than 10?

Mr. Cabell.

Yes; I was thinking in terms of 10 o'clock being the hour of shooting, but we can move this conversation with Curry to a matter of minutes preceding the shooting of Oswald.

Mr. Hubert.

Now were any threatening calls received by you directly?

Mr. Cabell.

Only one, which was received by Mrs. Cabell on New Year's Eve.

Mr. Hubert.

December 31, 1963?

Mr. Cabell.

December 31, 1963; yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Were there any received indirectly?

Mr. Cabell.

Only those that were reported to us by Chief Curry. There was one incident which was not a call, but which was an unusual thing and which caused a certain amount of apprehension.
On a Saturday evening, which one I can't tell you, but it was while security was being maintained, that I decided to go out and eat dinner. Mrs. Cabell did not want to go. She said she would just stay at home. One of the officers stayed with Mrs. Cabell. The other one accompanied me to Tupinamba, a Mexican cafe on Lovers Lane. I told Mrs. Cabell I would get Mexican food there. There are three places in the immediate vicinity, all of which we patronize from time to time.
The officer and I were in having our dinner when the proprietor came over and said that I was wanted on the phone. I picked up the receiver. I could hear traffic noises in the background, so I knew that the line was open. I said, "Hello" several times, and the receiver clicked in my ear. I thought that Mrs. Cabell had possibly tried to get hold of me, and I called her, and she said, "No, she had not." So it was obvious that someone who was either in