Mr. Cabell.

then the driver carried me to Mr. Jonsson's house where I left my car, and then I returned home.

Mr. Hubert.

When did you first know of the apprehension of Lee Harvey Oswald?

Mr. Cabell.

On the field there, Chief Curry told us of the killing of Officer Tippit, and I believe told us at the same time that they had apprehended the suspect.

Mr. Hubert.

That is to say, the suspect of the killing of the President, or of Tippit?

Mr. Cabell.

That he was one and the same.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he tell you what information he had to indicate that the killer of Tippit was also the assassin of the President?

Mr. Cabell.

Only that it was believed that he was one and the same. Now the details, I did not get at that time either concerning the killing of Officer Tippit or the subsequent apprehension of Oswald.

Mr. Hubert.

What was your next contact with Curry, if you recall?

Mr. Cabell.

I don't recall any further contact with Curry. This was not a face to face or personal contact. It was telephonic concerning the issuance of this parade permit, which is covered in the report by the bureau man.

Mr. Hubert.

That was a conference by telephone on Sunday the 24th?

Mr. Cabell.

That is correct.

Mr. Hubert.

You had no contact, to your knowledge, with him?

Mr. Cabell.

I don't recall any further contact with Chief Curry.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you have a contact with any other member of the police department?

Mr. Cabell.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you have any knowledge of the situation in the county jail with reference to the news media?

Mr. Cabell.

That was the city jail.

Mr. Hubert.

I beg your pardon, city jail, with reference to the covering of the matter by the news media, and the confusion that came about as a result of that?

Mr. Cabell.

I knew fairly well what was going on by watching my own TV from time to time and the covering that they had on the activities around the police department of the city hall.

Mr. Hubert.

Was there any meeting of the council during the interval between the 22d and the 24th?

Mr. Cabell.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you have any contact with, City Manager Crull during that time?

Mr. Cabell.

The Sunday morning, I knew that the city manager was out of town, and in my conversation with Chief Curry subsequent to the shooting of Oswald, I asked him if he had made contact with Mr. Crull, and suggested that if he had not, that he do make immediate contact and ask for his return to the city.

Mr. Hubert.

That was after the shooting of Oswald?

Mr. Cabell.

This was after the shooting of Oswald. And he told me at that time that Mr. Crull had been contacted and was on his way back.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you know prior to the shooting of Oswald, or have you learned since whether there was any awareness in the police department of possible danger to Oswald?

Mr. Cabell.

No, no. After it had all occurred, then I recall having been told by someone that there had been an attempt, or that an attempt would be made, but that is not clear, and purely a matter of hearsay.

Mr. Hubert.

I believe in your conversation with Chief Curry on Sunday, you discussed a threat that had been made to you, or indirectly?

Mr. Cabell.

He called me that this call had come through the switchboard of the city hall, and it was his understanding that it was long distance, but he did not know the source, and since it was a direct dial and they could not trace it, there was not enough time, wherein the caller said that an attempt would be made on my life.

Mr. Hubert.

He told you that was a long-distance call?