Mr. Ball.

You were there when he picked them up?

Mr. Guinyard.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

Where were they?

Mr. Guinyard.

Laying across the yard as he kicked them out all around the sidewalk.

Mr. Ball.

Were they anywhere near the bushes?

Mr. Guinyard.

No, sir; there was just this little old shrub that was in the yard just laying down through the yard--that little old shrub that was there.

Mr. Ball.

Later that day, did you go down to the police department?

Mr. Guinyard.

Yes, sir; I went down that night.

Mr. Ball.

That same night?

Mr. Guinyard.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

Whom did you go down with?

Mr. Guinyard.

Me and Ted.

Mr. Ball.

You and who?

Mr. Guinyard.

Ted---Ted Callaway.

Mr. Ball.

Ted Callaway?

Mr. Guinyard.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

And where did you go when you went to the police station?

Mr. Guinyard.

I went to the identifying office.

Mr. Ball.

You went into a place where there were police officers?

Mr. Guinyard.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

And how did you identify him--tell me what happened to you, what you saw?

Mr. Guinyard.

Well, I just saw him.

Mr. Ball.

Well, were you in a big room?

Mr. Guinyard.

Yes--in a big room.

Mr. Ball.

With police officers?

Mr. Guinyard.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

And what did you see?

Mr. Guinyard.

I don't understand you.

Mr. Ball.

Did you see some men up ahead of you?

Mr. Guinyard.

Yes--four men.

Mr. Ball.

Four men?

Mr. Guinyard.

Yes--four men--handcuffed together.

Mr. Ball.

What did you say?

Mr. Guinyard.

They was handcuffed together.

Mr. Ball.

They was handcuffed?

Mr. Guinyard.

Yes; all four of them.

Mr. Ball.

Were they of different sizes?

Mr. Guinyard.

Well, they was pretty close together--there wasn't much difference in size.

Mr. Ball.

In height--they were about the same?

Mr. Guinyard.

About the same.

Mr. Ball.

Were they all about the same color?

Mr. Guinyard.

No, sir; they wasn't all about the same color.

Mr. Ball.

All about the same color?

Mr. Guinyard.

No, sir; they wasn't all about the same color.

Mr. Ball.

Did you say anything to any police officer there after you saw them?

Mr. Guinyard.

I talked to one---with the detective---after he came out there.

Mr. Ball.

What did you tell him--I mean in this room---as you saw these four men up there?

Mr. Guinyard.

He just asked me reckon I could identify them and I said I sure could.

Mr. Ball.

What did you tell him?

Mr. Guinyard.

I just told him I sure could.

Mr. Ball.

What did you say to him about it?

Mr. Guinyard.

Well, I didn't say anything--I was just waiting on them to bring them in.

Mr. Ball.

After they brought them in and after you looked at them, what did you tell the police officers?