Mr. Guinyard.

I told them that was him right there---I pointed him out right there. That was him right there.

Mr. Ball.

Do you remember where he was standing in the lineup--what number he was?

Mr. Guinyard.

I don't know what his number was, but I can tell you where he was Standing at.

Mr. Ball.

Where was he standing?

Mr. Guinyard.

He was standing--the second man from the east side, and that lineup was this way [indicating] and he was the second man from that there end.

Mr. Ball.

And did you tell any police officer that you thought that was the man?

Mr. Guinyard.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Whom did you tell; what police officer was it?

Mr. Guinyard.

I don't know his name.

Mr. Ball.

You don't know his name?

Mr. Guinyard.

No, sir; I don't know his name but I know him now if I would see him.

Mr. Ball.

Before you went in there, did the police officers show you any pictures?

Mr. Guinyard.

No, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Did the police officer say anything to you before you went in there?

Mr. Guinyard.

No, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Did he say that he thought they had the man that killed the police officer?

Mr. Guinyard.

No, sir; he didn't tell me that.

Mr. Ball.

Did you hear Ted Callaway say anything before you said you thought that was the man?

Mr. Guinyard.

No, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Were you with Ted at the time?

Mr. Guinyard.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

How close was Ted to you?

Mr. Guinyard.

Oh--sitting about like that.

Mr. Ball.

You mean 3 or 4 feet away from you?

Mr. Guinyard.

Yes; something like that.

Mr. Ball.

How was this man dressed that had the pistol in his hand?

Mr. Guinyard.

He had on a pair of black britches and a brown shirt and a lithe sort of light-gray-looking jacket.

Mr. Ball.

A gray jacket.

Mr. Guinyard.

Yes; a light gray jacket and a white T-shirt.

Mr. Ball.

A white T-shirt?

Mr. Guinyard.

Yes; a white T-shirt on under it.

Mr. Ball.

Now, he had a light gray jacket on?

Mr. Guinyard.

And a brown shirt on.

Mr. Ball.

And a white T-shirt on?

Mr. Guinyard.

Underneath it, because this brown shirt was open at the throat and the white T-shirt under it like this [indicating].

Mr. Ball.

That's all I've got to examine you about now, except to show you these clothes, and they are upstairs. We will go up now and take a look at them.
(At this time Counsel Ball, the witness Guinyard and the reporter Oliver left the deposing room on the third floor of the Federal Building and resumed in a deposing room on the fourth floor of the Federal Building and the deposition proceedings continued as follows:)

Mr. Ball.

Sam, I'll show you an exhibit here, which is a piece of clothing and which is marked Commission Exhibit No. 150. Have you ever seen this before?

Mr. Guinyard.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

When and where?

Mr. Guinyard.

In Oak Cliff.

Mr. Ball.

Did you ever see anybody wearing it?

Mr. Guinyard.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Who?