Mr. Guinyard.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

Where did you go to school?

Mr. Guinyard.

Ennis and Hillsboro.

Mr. Ball.

And how far through school did you go?

Mr. Guinyard.

Well, I got to the sixth grade.

Mr. Ball.

What have you done since then, what kind of work have you done mostly?

Mr. Guinyard.

Compress work.

Mr. Ball.

What is that?

Mr. Guinyard.

Press cotton---pressing cotton.

Mr. Ball.

When did you come to Dallas?

Mr. Guinyard.

Well, I have been back in Dallas ever since 1957. I lived in Plainview about 13 years.

Mr. Ball.

At--what kind of work have you done since you came to Dallas?

Mr. Guinyard.

Well, a porter in a carlot.

Mr. Ball.

A porter in a carlot?

Mr. Guinyard.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

Have you ever been in any kind of trouble in your life?

Mr. Guinyard.

No, sir; nothing but a little poker fines that otherwise I paid and I got a couple of tickets in my life.

Mr. Ball.

Now, on the day of November 22, 1963, that's the day the President was killed, what were you doing?

Mr. Guinyard.

Working there.

Mr. Ball.

And you heard about it, that he had been shot? Didn't you?

Mr. Guinyard.

Yes; at the time I did.

Mr. Ball.

What were you doing and where were you then when you heard that?

Mr. Guinyard.

In Oak Cliff at 501 East Jefferson.

Mr. Ball.

What were you doing?

Mr. Guinyard.

Polishing and waxing a station wagon.

Mr. Ball.

And did something else happen that day that you remember?

Mr. Guinyard.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

What?

Mr. Guinyard.

Well, this was when Oswald shot the policeman.

Mr. Ball.

Tell me what you heard---I just want to know what you were doing and what you heard?

Mr. Guinyard.

Well, he was about--I guess----

Mr. Ball.

Now, wait a minute, were you polishing cars when you heard something?

Mr. Guinyard.

When I heard a shot.

Mr. Ball.

You heard a noise?
Mr. GUINYARD, Yes

Mr. Ball.

And it sounded like shots?

Mr. Guinyard.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

How many?

Mr. Guinyard.

I heard three.

Mr. Ball.

Where did the sound come from?

Mr. Guinyard.

Right behind me, north of me--behind me.

Mr. Ball.

What street is north of you?

Mr. Guinyard.

Tenth.

Mr. Ball.

You were on what street--your carlot faces what street?

Mr. Guinyard.

It faces Jefferson and 10th.

Mr. Ball.

And 10th Street is north?

Mr. Guinyard.

Yes; and I was in the back---I was about half way right in the back.

Mr. Ball.

The cross street is Patton Street?

Mr. Guinyard.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

What did you do when you heard the shots?

Mr. Guinyard.

I raised up trying to see where they were coming from, where the sound was coming from.

Mr. Ball.

Then what did you do?

Mr. Guinyard.

I was looking--trying to see and after I heard the third shot, then Oswald came through on Patton running---came right through the yard in