Mr. Turner.

Well, yes; but I don't believe he mentioned that building. I believe he just mentioned the overpass over the Elm Street. He said cover off that area around the overpass, I believe.

Mr. Belin.

Did you see the President's car come by your car?

Mr. Turner.

Out on the expressway, I did; yes.

Mr. Belin.

Where was the President's car headed?

Mr. Turner.

Parkland Hospital.

Mr. Belin.

What did you do then?

Mr. Turner.

We fell in behind it in our car.

Mr. Belin.

You went over to Parkland Hospital?

Mr. Turner.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin.

What did you do when you got there?

Mr. Turner.

We went up by the exit there and helped sort of control the crowd, and I never did go in. They unloaded the President's car?

Mr. Belin.

Did you watch them unload the President's car?

Mr. Turner.

Off and on, I mean, I was more or less mingling in the crowd, trying to restrain the crowd where they could have room to work.

Mr. Belin.

Did you see how they unloaded Governor Connally?

Mr. Turner.

No, sir; I didn't.

Mr. Belin.

Did you see how they unloaded the President?

Mr. Turner.

No, sir.

Mr. Belin.

Then what did you do?

Mr. Turner.

We got back in Chief Lumpkin's car along with him, and we come back to the Texas School Book Depository Building.

Mr. Belin.

When did you get back there, approximately?

Mr. Turner.

In relation to time, I don't know. But it was just about a short while. I would say, I don't know, 10 or 15 minutes after it happened. We just started out there in a matter of minutes, and we drove code 3, with the sirens on, and we came back down here.

Mr. Belin.

Then what did you do?

Mr. Turner.

Chief Lumpkin told me to search out a caboose to a train that was parked at the rear of the building. I went in and searched this boxcar out, and come out of there, and by that time they were already in the building, I supposed. I went in the building and that is when I ran across this Mr. Campbell and Truly.

Mr. Belin.

Now let me ask you this. Did you find anything in the boxcar?

Mr. Turner.

No, sir.

Mr. Belin.

Did you see any railroad employee over there?

Mr. Turner.

At the boxcar?

Mr. Belin.

Or in this area, did you talk to anybody?

Mr. Turner.

No sir; this was a caboose of a boxcar, that is what it was, sitting there.

Mr. Belin.

Did you talk to anyone over there that indicated where they heard the shots came from?

Mr. Turner.

Talked to these people from the School Book Depository.

Mr. Belin.

Prior to the time you got to the School Book Depository, did you talk to anyone?

Mr. Turner.

No, sir.

Mr. Belin.

All right, now, you say you saw Mr. Campbell and Mr. Truly and who else?

Mr. Turner.

Mr. Molina.

Mr. Belin.

They all worked there?

Mr. Turner.

Yes; they said they did.

Mr. Belin.

Where did you talk to them?

Mr. Turner.

Down on the first floor of this building, back sort of a warehouse like.

Mr. Belin.

Did they say where they heard the shots come from?

Mr. Turner.

Yes, sir; they did.

Mr. Belin.

What did they say?

Mr. Turner.

Well, I believe they said they thought they all came from west of the building at that time.