Mr. Belin.

Did they say where they were when they heard the shots, when the shots came?

Mr. Turner.

Well, according to my notes, Mr. Truly stated that he was at the front of the store watching the parade in the front of the building, and Mr. Campbell had walked across the street, and this Joe Molina, I don't have on here where he was. He just said he worked in the warehouse.

Mr. Belin.

That is all your notes show on him?

Mr. Turner.

Said they all thought the sound came from west of their building.

Mr. Belin.

Can I take a look at that book of yours? It might cut down the questioning?

Mr. Turner.

Yes; this is more or less some notes.

Mr. Belin.

You are handing me kind of a spiral notebook that you have. I notice here, well, let me ask you this. Then what did you do after that?

Mr. Turner.

About that time there was a deputy sheriff, Mr. Sweatt, come over and told me they sent a witness over to their office, which was located diagonally across the street, and said this witness might be able to shed light on the description of a suspect, so I went to the sheriff's office and I stayed there for quite some spell talking to witnesses.

Mr. Belin.

Who did you talk to?

Mr. Turner.

Several of them. I would have to look up their names.

Mr. Belin.

Well, looking at your index in your little notebook, I see you have something about an Arnold Rowland there?

Mr. Turner.

Yes; I talked to Rowland.

Mr. Belin.

What do your notes say you talked to Rowland about? What did Rowland say, according to your notes?

Mr. Turner.

Said he was standing. I don't know whether he was with his wife or his girl friend, I don't know what connection, they were standing on Houston between Main and Elm, approximately 15 minutes before the President arrived. They saw a man standing back in the background of an open window two floors from the top.

Mr. Belin.

Two floors from the top?

Mr. Turner.

That is what he said. The man appeared to have a rifle with scope on it in his hand and he notice another thing that he said about this, he said the man was standing on the west side of the building.

Mr. Belin.

The west side of the south side of the building?

Mr. Turner.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

What else did he say?

Mr. Turner.

He thought it was a security man, is the reason that he made no issue of it. I am unable to give a description except a white man, and that he heard three shots.

Mr. Belin.

Did he say how much of the man he saw, or not; do you remember?

Mr. Turner.

No, sir; I don't remember any further. There was a court reporter there and so forth, and they took an affidavit of him at the time.

Mr. Belin.

Did he say anything about seeing any other man in the window in any other windows there?

Mr. Turner.

Not that I recall.

Mr. Belin.

All right, did you interview any Ronald Fischer or a Robert Edwards?

Mr. Turner.

I got a Ronald Fischer and Bob Edwards.

Mr. Belin.

What do you have about them?

Mr. Turner.

They said they saw a white man in his twenties standing on the fifth floor of the Book Building in the east window. Had on an open-necked sports shirt and had sandy-colored hair. And said the hair was longer than a crewcut.

Mr. Belin.

What else did they say?

Mr. Turner.

That is all the notes I have. Like I said, there was an affidavit taken from them at the time, too.

Mr. Belin.

Now this is with regards to the--do you have this under Fischer or under Edwards, or both?

Mr. Turner.

Under both. They were more or less together at the time.

Mr. Belin.

Did they think they could identify the man?