Mr. Sims.

No, sir; they took my notes the other day. I couldn't say. Whenever we arrived back at the city hail, they have what time that was.

Mr. Belin.

Do you remember what the occasion was of your going down to the city hall there? Is that why you happened to go down to the city hall that afternoon?

Mr. Sims.

Yes, sir; we were going to get started on Oswald.

Mr. Belin.

Were you on your way down there to investigate whether or not he had any record?

Mr. Sims.

I didn't know what he had at the time. I don't remember. I was driving, and captain, we stopped at the sheriff's office for a few minutes, and then went directly from there to the city hall.

Mr. Belin.

Why were you going to get started on Oswald?

Mr. Sims.

I don't know. Captain Fritz said go to the city hall.

Mr. Belin.

Did he tell you that they were going to get started on Oswald?

Mr. Sims.

No. He said go to the city hall.

Mr. Belin.

And that is what you did?

Mr. Sims.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

When you got to the city hall, did you go directly to Captain Fritz' office?

Mr. Sims.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin.

When you got there, was anyone inside?

Mr. Sims.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin.

Who was there?

Mr. Sims.

His office was full of people.

Mr. Belin.

Was Lee Oswald one of them?

Mr. Sims.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

In Captain Fritz' office?

Mr. Sims.

No. He was, I believe, now in the interrogation room. I am not positive. He wasn't in Captain Fritz' office.

Mr. Belin.

What did you do with that envelope when you got to Captain Fritz' office?

Mr. Sims.

I laid it on his desk and told him there was the hulls, or either gave it to him.

Mr. Belin.

You don't remember which one?

Mr. Sims.

No.

Mr. Belin.

Now what caused you to remember now what you actually did with the hulls? I mean, what refreshed your recollection as to that?

Mr. Sims.

Talked to Captain Fritz, and I remember we was going over to where the rifle, someone had found the rifle in the meantime, and we was walking over to where the rifle was found, and he told me to be sure and get the hulls.

Mr. Belin.

What did you do then?

Mr. Sims.

Well, I went over to where the rifle was found, and went back later to where the hulls were.

Mr. Belin.

Were the hulls still in the location you left them for being dusted for fingerprints?

Mr. Sims.

Yes, sir; they were still taking pictures.

Mr. Belin.

Were they still taking pictures, or dusting them?

Mr. Sims.

I hadn't picked them up. They were still, as far as I can remember, taking pictures, because Captain Fritz left two officers to preserve the scene.

Mr. Belin.

When you got back, what did you do after they got through with the pictures?

Mr. Sims.

When he got through with the scenery I picked the hulls up.

Mr. Belin.

Was it then that he dusted them, or what?

Mrs. Sims.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin.

Now, did Captain Fritz tell you that this is what you did, or Boyd tell you?

Mr. Sims.

No, I remembered the other day when I testified I wasn't too sure who brought them down, and then after I talked to Captain Fritz and Boyd, I remembered definitely we were walking over to where the rifle was found, and he told me to be sure and get the hulls, so I did that.

Mr. Belin.

Did Captain Fritz tell you, or the other, Day, that you were the one that brought the hulls, or did you independently remember?