Mr. Sims.

Well----

Mr. Ball.

In the afternoon, did you work on this case? On the Oswald case?

Mr. Sims.

Yes; I'm sure we did.

Mr. Ball.

Do you remember what you did?

Mr. Sims.

No, sir; I don't.

Mr. Ball.

Did you talk to any witnesses?

Mr. Sims.

No, sir; I didn't talk to any.

Mr. Ball.

Did you take any statements?

Mr. Sims.

No.

Mr. Ball.

When was the next time you saw Oswald?

Mr. Sims.

At 6 o'clock.

Mr. Ball.

What did you do then?

Mr. Sims.

We brought him back to Captain Fritz' office.

Mr. Ball.

Who are "we"?

Mr. Sims.

Myself, M. G. Hall, and Detective L. C. Graves.

Mr. Ball.

Where was Boyd when you did that?

Mr. Sims.

I don't know.

Mr. Ball.

He wasn't with you at that time?

Mr. Sims.

No, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Where did you get Oswald?

Mr. Sims.

. From the jail.

Mr. Ball.

You took him to Fritz' office?

Mr. Sims.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

How long did you stay there?

Mr. Sims.

We returned him at--myself, Hall, and Graves--returned him at 7 :15 to the jail.

Mr. Ball.

Now, were you in Captain Fritz' office during that interrogation?

Mr. Sims.

No; I don't believe I was.

Mr. Ball.

Do you know what you did after that?

Mr. Sims.

No, sir; I don't know what I did after that.

Mr. Ball.

Did you ever see Oswald again?

Mr. Sims.

No, sir; I never did see him again.

Mr. Ball.

Were you on duty on the 24th?

Mr. Sims.

No, sir; I was off that day.

Mr. Ball.

And you heard of Oswald's death over the radio; is that right?

Mr. Sims.

Over the television.

Mr. Ball.

You watched it over television, did you?

Mr. Sims.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Do you fellows have any suggestions for questions--you might go ahead and ask him any questions if you have any?

Mr. Stern.

Yes; I have a few things I would like to ask him with reference to this--I'm not sure that we identified his notes and I believe we ought to do that.
You were reading from or referring to a memorandum that you made when, Mr. Sims?

Mr. Sims.

In regards to the President's assassination and the killing of Officer Tippit.

Mr. Stern.

When did you make the memorandum?

Mr. Sims.

I don't know--it was shortly after the 24th.

Mr. Stern.

Within 3 or 4 days?

Mr. Sims.

The same week--yes, sir.

Mr. Stern.

And you made it with your partner, Officer Boyd, the two of you?

Mr. Sims.

Yes sir.

Mr. Stern.

You worked it out together?

Mr. Sims.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Stern.

Let the record show that this is a memorandum that appears as Commission Document 81-B, at pages 234 through 240. Was this memorandum made from notes that you noted at various times as the things occurred?

Mr. Sims.

Notes and memory.

Mr. Stern.

They were made from your notes and memory?

Mr. Sims.

From my notes and memory.