Mr. Sims.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

He was present when the murder complaint was signed?

Mr. Sims.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Where did this take place?

Mr. Sims.

In Captain Fritz' office.

Mr. Ball.

And who was present?

Mr. Sims.

Well, let me see Justice of the Peace Dave Johnston, and Assistant District Attorney Bill Alexander, and I don't know who else was there--I don't know who else was present.

Mr. Ball.

Was the judge there--the justice judge--the J.P., Dave Johnston?

Mr. Sims.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

And Bill Alexander and Fritz?

Mr. Sims.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

And you? And Boyd?

Mr. Sims.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

And Oswald was there?

Mr. Sims.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Was anything said to Oswald about the signing of a murder complaint?

Mr. Sims.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

What was said, and who said it?

Mr. Sims.

I don't remember what was said--I know Judge Johnston talked to him and Captain Fritz talked to him.

Mr. Ball.

And did Alexander talk to him?

Mr. Sims.

I believe he did, but I'm not positive about that.

Mr. Ball.

Do you remember what Judge Johnston said?

Mr. Sims.

No, sir; I don't.

Mr. Ball.

Do you remember what Oswald said?

Mr. Sims.

No, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Did anyone tell him that a murder complaint was being filed against him?

Mr. Sims.

I believe so; yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

For what murder?

Mr. Sims.

For Officer Tippit.

Mr. Ball.

Do you remember what Oswald said?

Mr. Sims.

No, sir; I don't.

Mr. Ball.

Then what did you do with Oswald after that?

Mr. Sims.

At 7:40 we entered the third showup.

Mr. Ball.

Now, at 7:30 an FBI agent came in, didn't he, according to your records?

Mr. Sims.

Yes, sir; at 7:30--we sat in the office with Oswald and Mr. Clements of the FBI came in and interrogated Oswald.

Mr. Ball.

You and Boyd were there?

Mr. Sims.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

What did Clements ask him?

Mr. Sims.

I don't remember the questions he asked him.

Mr. Ball.

Did you hear what Oswald said?

Mr. Sims.

Yes, sir; but I don't remember what the answers were.

Mr. Ball.

Then, when was the next showup?

Mr. Sims.

At 7:40.

Mr. Ball.

And who were the men in the third showup?

Mr. Sims.

Well, the third showup was No. 1--a Richard Walker [spelling] B-o-r-c-h-g-a-r-d-t.

Mr. Ball.

Borchgardt--what is his address; do you have that?

Mr. Sims.

No, sir; I don't have his address. He was a city prisoner.

Mr. Ball.

Do you know what he was charged with at that time?

Mr. Sims.

No, sir--I have his arrest number and his I.D. number.

Mr. Ball.

And then was he No. 1?

Mr. Sims.

No. 1---

Mr. Ball.

And who else?

Mr. Sims.

No. 2 was Lee Harvey Oswald.

Mr. Ball.

Who was there?