Mr. Ball.

Is it shown in the picture?

Mr. Studebaker.

It will show on another negative.

Mr. Ball.

You see, somebody reading this can't tell what you mean by "another box taken from this stack here."

Mr. Studebaker.

Well, there is a box right under this.

Mr. Ball.

Right under what?

Mr. Studebaker.

Right under this box.

Mr. Ball.

You mean the box that's shown in the window ledge, you mean the little Rolling Readers?

Mr. Studebaker.

There are two boxes stacked up here here's one, and here's one.

Mr. Ball.

Were they both Rolling Readers?

Mr. Studebaker.

Yes; two small boxes, and then a large box with these books was underneath.

Mr. Ball.

It's marked "books"?

Mr. Studebaker.

It's marked "books" and it was underneath this box.

Mr. Ball.

Now, the box marked "books" was underneath the box marked "Rolling Readers"?

Mr. Studebaker.

Yes; Second Rolling Readers.

Mr. Ball.

Now, there were two Rolling Readers boxes, weren't there?

Mr. Studebaker.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

Where were they taken from?

Mr. Studebaker.

They were taken from the fourth aisle and put there.

Mr. Ball.

Where were they stacked in the window?

Mr. Studebaker.

Well, this shows as much as you can before anything was moved, and at that time, we went over to this other place----

Mr. Ball.

Did you take this picture?

Mr. Studebaker.

Yes, sir; that was after the boxes were dusted.

Mr. Ball.

That's after they were moved?

Mr. Studebaker.

Yes, sir; that's when we was trying to get some prints right there.

Mr. Ball.

Do you have any pictures of the boxes before they were moved other than those you have showed me?

Mr. Studebaker.

Just these two.

Mr. Ball.

Just the two that show the cartons, and those are Exhibits A and B?

Mr. Studebaker.

We have probably got one down there I can get you that is a lot better print than that. If you want a better print, I can get it for you.

Mr. Ball.

Then, you don't have any pictures taken of the boxes before they were moved?

Mr. Studebaker.

No.

Mr. Ball.

Now, I will show you another picture which we will mark as "Exhibit D," was that taken by you?

Mr. Studebaker.

Yes.
(Instrument marked by the reporter as "Studebaker Exhibit D," for identification.)

Mr. Ball.

Does that show the position of the boxes before or after they were moved?

Mr. Studebaker.

That's after they were dusted---there's fingerprint dust on every box.

Mr. Ball.

And they were not in that position then when you first saw them?

Mr. Studebaker.

No.

Mr. Ball.

Now, take a look at it and tell me where were they with reference to the left window sill, were there boxes-over close to the left window sill or in the center, or close to the right of the window sill?

Mr. Studebaker.

Where is your other picture and I will show you? See this box right here this box?

Mr. Ball.

We are referring now to the box shown in Exhibit B.

Mr. Studebaker.

That's one of these Rolling Readers there in Exhibit B, you can read it right here---it's upside down. It says, "Second Rolling Readers."

Mr. Ball.

That says 10.

Mr. Studebaker.

No; it says Second; that's that little Rolling Reader---it says "Second Rolling Readers". They don't go by this up there, they go by this