Mr. Ball.

Yes.

Mr. Studebaker.

Yes, sir; that's why, right after these were taken, they said they had found a rifle and to bring the cameras over to the northwest corner of the building where the rifle was found and I loaded everything up and carried it over there.

Mr. Ball.

Did you take a picture of that?

Mr. Studebaker.

Yes, sir; on these, Lieutenant Day also took pictures of and he also took pictures of this gun. We took two shots apiece.

Mr. Ball.

Let's see the shots you took of the place where the gun was located?

Mr. Studebaker.

I know it's mine because my knees are in the picture.

Mr. Ball.

Do you remember the name of the deputy sheriff that found the gun?

Mr. Studebaker.

No, I don't.

Mr. Ball.

You have handed me a picture now that I will have marked as "Exhibit C" and it is your No. 22.
(Instrument marked by the reporter as "Studebaker Exhibit C," for identification.)

Mr. Ball.

That is a picture taken by you of the location of the gun--that was before anyone moved it?

Mr. Studebaker.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

Do you have another shot of that other picture?

Mr. Studebaker.

No, We took two from the same location when we was up on top of the stack of boxes shooting down at it, before they picked it up. Actually, there was four negatives of them of the gun, but they are all in the same location, shooting straight down and they were taken on different exposures.

Mr. Ball.

You took some other pictures; didn't you?

Mr. Studebaker.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Did you take a picture of the window in the southeast corner?

Mr. Studebaker.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Were there any boxes on the ledge of this window?

Mr. Studebaker.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

Did you take some pictures showing those boxes?
Mr. STUDEBAKER, Yes.

Mr. Ball.

Was that before any of them were moved?

Mr. Studebaker.

That picture right there is the one that shows them, and the other pictures show them before they were moved.

Mr. Ball.

You mean Exhibit A and B?

Mr. Studebaker.

A and B.

Mr. Ball.

Do you have a picture that shows the boxes themselves, just a shot of those boxes in the window?

Mr. Studebaker.

This one, Exhibit A, shows that--this is the exact--now, this print here isn't too good, but you can see the indentation in this box right here. This is before it was ever moved, and right down below here, you can see a staple on another box or another negative, this isn't too good a negative here. If I had known what you wanted, I would have brought you a better print- -picked out a better print.

Mr. Ball.

Now, you say on Exhibit A it shows a box in the window?
Mr. STUDEBAKER, These boxes [indicating], yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Is that the way they were piled up?

Mr. Studebaker.

Yes, just exactly like that.

Mr. Ball.

And you say there is an indentation on that box?

Mr. Studebaker.

Right here.

Mr. Ball.

That shows in the picture.

Mr. Studebaker.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

Will you take this pen and sort of surround that and make it look a little heavier?

Mr. Studebaker.

(Marked exhibit as requested by Counsel Ball.)

Mr. Ball.

There was an indentation in the box, was there?

Mr. Studebaker.

Yes, and you can tell on these boxes. We checked them all over and this box is a Second Rolling Readers---that was carried from the fourth aisle over here to over here (indicating) and there is another box that was taken off of this stack---this stack right here.