Mr. Dulles.

That is right.
"At this time Hosty made the statement that Lee Oswald had killed the President, and that Oswald was a Communist."
Now, at this time, that is walking toward point "C" you have just marked on exhibit----

Mr. Brain.

No, sir; we stopped here for a pause just for a short time, it would be hard to say how long but it wasn't because--it wasn't long because it don't take long to make a statement.

Representative Ford.

That is point "B."

Mr. Brian.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Dulles.

Near point "B" is where this conversation took place.

Mr. Brian.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Dulles.

And you did not hear the content of any further conversations?

Mr. Brian.

No, sir; other than that he said he knew he was a Communist and knew he was working in the Book Depository.

Mr. Dulles.

Did further conversations take place between Lieutenant Revill and Agent Hosty after that?

Mr. Brian.

Yes, sir; they walked on talking.

Mr. Dulles.

But you did not hear what they said at that time?

Mr. Brian.

I was behind them and Lieutenant Revill got in a hurry when that happened and they got on and I was behind them, and it is pretty hard to hear what people are saying in front of you when they have got their back turned to you and you are behind them.

Mr. Dulles.

You have indicated that in paragraph 3 of Exhibit 7. You say, "While we were in the basement Hosty also said several things to Lieutenant Revill that I could not hear," because of the excitement and commotion, that is what you had reference to?

Mr. Brian.

Yes, sir; they were conversing as they walked on and I couldn't hear them and I didn't hear what they said, I was behind them. I didn't pay a whole lot of attention to the whole thing because like I say I didn't think it would matter any. It was just--and things were happening pretty fast, and along about that time.

Mr. Dulles.

That is all I have, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. Rankin.

Mr. Chairman, I would like to offer the diagram, Exhibit 839, if I may.

The Chairman.

Yes, all right; it may be admitted under that number. Thank you very much.
(At this point Representative Ford left the hearing room.)
(Commission Exhibit No. 839 was marked for identification and received in evidence.)

Mr. Dulles.

That is the original before the notary public put his endorsement on it.

Mr. Brian.

Yes, sir; that went forward.

The Chairman.

Thank you.

Mr. Rankin.

Mr. Chief Justice, Mr. Specter is going to examine these people about the velocity and so forth and I want to speak on--speak to him just a minute about the matter we talked about.

The Chairman.

We will take a break now.
(Recess.)

Robert A. Frazier

Testimony of Robert A. Frazier

The Chairman.

Mr. Specter, you may proceed.
You have been sworn and you are still under oath, as you understand?

Mr. Frazier.

Yes.

Mr. Specter.

Will you state your name again for the record, please?

Mr. Frazier.

Robert A. Frazier.

Mr. Specter.

Mr. Frazier, you have appeared heretofore to testify about certain tests which you have conducted, but at this phase of the record, will you state briefly your occupation and your specialty, please?

Mr. Frazier.

I am a special agent assigned to the FBI laboratory, the firearms identification unit in Washington, D.C., where I make examinations of bullets,