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(Testimony of V. J. Brian)
Representative Ford.
Yes.
Mr. Brian.
Let me see, Lieutenant Revill, myself, Westphal, Tarver, and we gave a man a lift, and I don't remember whether he was a CID, I don't know the man, I don't remember whether he was a CIC agent or a CID or OSI, he was some type of, as I recall, Army intelligence man.
Mr. Dulles.
Army, Air Force, or something?
Mr. Brian.
He was connected with the service and we let him out a couple of blocks, if I recall, up about Field Street, somewhere along in there. Lieutenant Revill knew him, who he was, and he rode up there with us.
Representative Ford.
Who drove the car?
Mr. Brian.
Lieutenant Revill. It was his car.
Representative Ford.
Did you sit in the front or back seat?
Mr. Brian.
Sat in the back seat on the left-hand side.
Representative Ford.
Who sat in the front seat.
Mr. Brian.
I don't recall.
Mr. Dulles.
You were right behind Lieutenant Revill?
Mr. Brian.
I believe I was right behind Lieutenant Revill. Yes, sir; that is, I believe I sat in the back seat.
Representative Ford.
When you got into the building and got out of the car, what happened to the other occupants of the car?
Mr. Brian.
I don't know. They went on about, probably went up to Captain Gannaway, but I don't recall seeing them after we started talking to Hosty and went on, somewhere in the shuffle they didn't stay with us and went on.
Representative Ford.
They didn't accompany you up the elevator?
Mr. Brian.
No, sir; and I don't know where they went.
Mr. Dulles.
That is they weren't among the possibly 10 men of the police who were in the elevator, as far as you remember, I mean?
Mr. Brian.
As far as I remember; no.
Mr. Rankin.
Mr. Brian, I call your attention to Exhibit 857A and the fact that is a newspaper account and ask you to examine and state whether or not you recall having seen that before. I want to correct the record, that is Commission 857A which is attached to Exhibit 831.
Mr. Brian.
Yes, sir; I read this in the Dallas paper, I believe.
Mr. Rankin.
Did you have anything to do with giving that to the paper?
Mr. Brian.
No, sir.
Mr. Rankin.
Did you talk to any newspaper people about it?
Mr. Brian.
No, sir; haven't talked to any since it happened.
Mr. Rankin.
All you know about it is that you just saw it in the paper?
Mr. Brian.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Rankin.
Then----
Mr. Brian.
I know the next--it was supposed to come out on Friday because on Saturday they started calling my house and I left.
Mr. Rankin.
You never answered any of the calls?
Mr. Brain.
No, sir; I never talked to any reporters about it.
Mr. Rankin.
That is all I have, Mr. Chief Justice.
The Chairman.
Congressman, do you have anything?
Representative Ford.
I don't believe so, Mr. Chief Justice.
The Chairman.
Mr. Dulles?
Mr. Dulles.
Give me just 1 minute, Mr. Chief Justice. In the second paragraph of your letter, Commission Exhibit 711, you say "Upon entering the basement of city hall," he, Agent Hosty, that you explained, who had already parked his, car, he also parked his car in the basement of the city hall building?
Mr. Brian.
Yes, sir; over here where you told me to put "A" he was or in that area over there and was out of his car walking towards us.
Mr. Dulles.
And you go on to say "and was walking very fast toward the entrance of the city hall from the parking area."
Mr. Brian.
Yes, sir; that is this entrance over here.
Mr. Dulles.
What is that marked? Is there a mark on that?
Mr. Brian.
No, sir. You didn't tell me to mark "A" and "B" where we met.
Mr. Dulles.
You might mark that "C," I think we have "A" and "B."
Mr. Brian.
O.K., "C" would be the entrance by the jail office.
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