Mr. Jenner.

His direction--

Mrs. Paine.

And tell her his message.

Mr. Jenner.

All right.

Mrs. Paine.

In the meantime, had you sought to reach John Abt?

Mrs. Paine.

I had, after 6 o'clock, thank you. I had dialed both numbers and neither answered.

Mr. Jenner.

Neither answered. Was there any conversation between you and Lee Oswald in the evening conversation to which you reported to him your inability to reach Mr. Abt?

Mrs. Paine.

I do not specifically recall.

Mr. Jenner.

Or the subject of Mr. Abt at all?

Mrs. Paine.

I don't want to get in, to rationalization. I can judge that something was said but I do not recall it specifically.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, have you given the full extent of that conversation?

Mrs. Paine.

To the best of my recollection.

Mr. Jenner.

At anytime during that conversation with Lee Harvey Oswald did he assert or intimate in any form or fashion his innocence of any charges against him?

Mrs. Paine.

No; he did not.

Mr. Jenner.

Was the assassination mentioned at all?

Mrs. Paine.

No; it was not.

Mr. Jenner.

Was the shooting or murder of Officer Tippit mentioned?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

You have given everything that was said in that conversation as best you are able to recall it at the moment?

Mrs. Paine.

That is right. I then tried the only thing I knew to do, to try to reach Marina. I had heard one of the FBI agents try to find her when he was at my home, had dialed the hotel where the Life people were staying, and asked to be put in contact with Marina and was told, I judge, because he repeated it and wrote it down. Executive Inn. Here I am turning detective in this small way.

Mr. Jenner.

You also mentioned now for the first time there were FBI agents in your home?

Mrs. Paine.

That day.

Mr. Jenner.

During the course of the day?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes. I then dialed--

Mr. Jenner.

You shook your head, did you shake your head in the affirmative?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes; there were FBI agents in my home during the day. One I recalled made this telephone call. I was waiting to hear from Marina to see if she wanted to talk with me. I had no desire to press her or to attempt to reach her unless she wanted to reach me, but then with this message, I went ahead and dialed the Executive Inn and asked for Tommy Thompson, and Marguerite Oswald answered, and I said I would like to talk to Marina, and she said, "Well, Marina is in the bathroom," and I said to Marguerite that Lee had called me, that he wanted me to deliver a message to Marina, that he wished for her to be at my home, and Marguerite Oswald said, "Well, he is in prison. he don't know the things we are up against, the things we, have to face. What he wants doesn't really matter," which surprised me. And again I asked to speak to Marina and waited until I did speak to her and delivered the same message in Russian to her but there was no further

Mr. Jenner.

What response did Marina make to the message that you conveyed to her?

Mrs. Paine.

She said she was very tired and wanted to get to bed, as I recall, and thought it was certainly best to stay there that night.

Mr. Jenner.

Is that your best recollection?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes. And I certainly agreed with her.

Mr. Jenner.

Did she say anything in response to your delivery of Lee Oswald's message about Marina staying with you, of the possibility of her staying with you, say, the next day?

Mrs. Paine.

Nothing of that nature was said. I think I remember that we did discuss whether she had seen Lee during the day, and on that occasion