Mrs. Paine.

For a portion of the time they were looking, no one was in the house.

Representative Ford.

They were there alone?

Mrs. Paine.

That is right.

Mr. Mccloy.

Did they indicate--were they still there when you got back?

Mrs. Paine.

No; they were not. Remember the door was locked.

Mr. Mccloy.

Yes; the door was locked, that is what I gather. Do you know what they took on this occasion, or did they tell you what they were coming for?

Mrs. Paine.

No; I do not. Before I left they were leafing through books to see if anything fell out but that is all I saw.

Mr. Mccloy.

All right.

Mrs. Paine.

In this interim then, I suppose I talked to some more news people but I want to get to the next important point which was that Lee called again.

Mr. Jenner.

A third time?

Mrs. Paine.

I really call the first two one, but it was twice dialed.

Mr. Jenner.

Fix the time, please.

Mrs. Paine.

It was around 9:30 in the evening.

Mr. Jenner.

Who was home? Was your husband there on that occasion?

Mrs. Paine.

I don't recall.

Mr. Jenner.

Was anyone else other than your children and yourself in your home at the time of the receipt of the call in the evening?

Mrs. Paine.

It could only have been Michael. I would remember someone else.

Mr. Jenner.

But you have no definite recollection that even he was present?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. The phone rang, you answered it.

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you recognize the voice?

Mrs. Paine.

I recognized the voice.

Mr. Jenner.

Whose was it?

Mrs. Paine.

It was Lee Oswald's.

Mr. Jenner.

What did he say and what did you say?

Mrs. Paine.

He said, "Marina, please," in Russian.

Mr. Jenner.

Please, Mrs. Paine, did he speak to you in English in the conversations in the afternoon or in Russian?

Mrs. Paine.

He spoke in English the entire conversation.

Mr. Jenner.

The two in the afternoon?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, however, he resorted to Russian, did he?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes. He planned to speak to Marina.

Mr. Jenner.

I beg your pardon?

Mrs. Paine.

He planned to speak to Marina, and this opening phrase was one he normally used calling as he had many previous times to speak to her.

Mr. Jenner.

He was under the assumption, you gathered, that Marina was in your home?

Mrs. Paine.

He certainly was.

Mr. Jenner.

All right.

Mrs. Paine.

And I would be fairly certain that I answered him in English. I said she was not there, that I had a notion about where she might be, but I wasn't at all certain. That I would try to find out. He said, he wanted me to--he said he thought she should be at my house. He felt irritated at not having been able to reach her. And he wanted me to--

Mr. Jenner.

Did he sound irritated?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes; he sounded just a slight edge to his voice. And he wanted me to deliver a message to her that he thought she should be at my house.

Mr. Jenner.

And he so instructed you?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

That is what he said?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes. That was so far as I remember, the entire conversation.

Mr. Jenner.

What response did you give to his direction?

Mrs. Paine.

I said I would try to reach her.