Mr. Jenner.

Was it agreed that Marina would stay at your house that night?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes; certainly all her baby things were there. So, we went back there. We were taken back by police officers.

Mr. Jenner.

Everybody assumed she would return back to your home?

Mrs. Paine.

Oh, yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Was there any discussion that would indicate any reluctance on

the part of anybody that she return to your home?

Mrs. Paine.

None.

Mr. Jenner.

None whatsoever by anybody?

Mrs. Paine.

That is correct, none whatsoever by anybody.
The police officers brought us back to my home. It was by this time dark, and I think it was about 9 o'clock in the evening. I asked Michael to go out and buy hamburgers at a drive-in so we wouldn't have to cook, and we ate these as best we could, and began to prepare to retire. We talked. I have a few specific recollections of that period that I will put in here.
Just close to the time of retiring Marina told me that just the night before Lee had said to her he hoped they could get an apartment together again soon. As she said this, I felt she was hurt and confused, wondering how he could have said such a thing which indicated wanting to be together with her when he must have already been planning something that would inevitably cause separation. I asked her did she think that Lee had killed the President and she said, "I don't know." And I felt that this was not something to talk about really anyway. But my curiosity overcame my politeness.
Now, back a little bit to the time in the living room, Mrs. Oswald and Michael and Marina and I were all there, and Mrs. Oswald, I recall, said, I mean of course Mrs. Marguerite Oswald.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mrs. Paine.

That if they were prominent people there would be three of the lawyers down in the city jail now trying to defend her son, and coming to his aid.
She felt that since they were just small people that there wouldn't--they wouldn't get the proper attention or care, and I tried to say this was not a small case. That most careful attention would be given it, but she didn't feel that way.

Mr. Jenner.

You made no impression on her?

Mrs. Paine.

I made no impression on her.

Mr. Jenner.

I take it

Mrs. Paine.

She made an impression on me.

Mr. Jenner.

I think we would prefer if you would call her Marguerite. It would avoid confusion.

Mrs. Paine.

All right. Somewhere in that evening before we retired, and after we had eaten, the doorbell rang and two men from Life Magazine appeared. I was--

Mr. Jenner.

Had you had any advance notice?

Mrs. Paine.

We had had no advance notice.

Mr. Jenner.

Nobody did?

Mrs. Paine.

Nobody did.

Mr. Jenner.

You in particular and none of the others in the room?

Mrs. Paine.

None of the others.

Mr. Jenner.

That was your impression?

Mrs. Paine.

I would be quite certain that none of the others and myself--

Mr. Jenner.

At least that was your impression at the moment?

Mrs. Paine.

That they had no prior information that these people might come. I will say I was not surprised that anyone of the press found his way to our door at that point. If anything, I was surprised there weren't more. Life Magazine was the only company or group to appear that evening. I permitted them to come in, and I felt that Mrs. Marguerite Oswald was interested in the possibility of their buying the story or paying for what information she and Marina might give them.

Mr. Jenner.

Had that occurred to you?

Mrs. Paine.

Had that occurred to me? No. But then, too, I wasn't thinking about pay for lawyers but she made that connection verbally in my presence.