Mr. Jenner.

What connection?

Mrs. Paine.

Between the need for money.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mrs. Paine.

The availability of Life Magazine and the need to pay for a lawyer.

Mr. Jenner.

And she was the one who raised that subject?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes; she raised it.

Mr. Jenner.

For commercialization of the story?

Mrs. Paine.

I recall now she raised it definitely enough that Mr. Tommy Thompson of Life called, I believe still that evening, to see if he could offer anything or what he might be empowered to offer.

Mr. Jenner.

That was all instigated by her?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes; very much so. I noticed that the other man, whose name I forget, had a camera and I was amazed, and I also saw he took a picture and I was amazed, he tried with a dim light in the room.

Mr. Jenner.

When you say he took a picture, you don't mean he took a picture from your living room?

Mrs. Paine.

He took a picture in my living room. He photographed. I saw him wind his roll.

Mr. Jenner.

Thank you.

Mrs. Paine.

I made the mistake I now think of turning on another light simply as an act of hostess, it was dim in the living room but I hadn't realized until later that I was making it possible for him to take a picture.
I didn't know what was best for me to do as hostess. It seemed to me that Mrs. Oswald, Sr., Mrs. Marguerite Oswald, was both interested in encouraging the Life Magazine representatives and still didn't really want her picture taken, and I had no personal objection to their being there. But I considered the Oswalds my guests and I didn't want to have the Life Magazine people there if they didn't want them. But they left fairly promptly, saying that they would come back in the morning.

Mr. Jenner.

Did they say anything about your talking or not talking to any other news media representatives until they had talked with you?

Mrs. Paine.

Not to me.

Mr. Jenner.

Nothing of that implied?

Mrs. Paine.

No. It was after this that the conversation I have already related with Marina took place, and we finished our preparations for bed. She said to me she didn't think she would sleep fairly soon and asked if she could borrow my hair dryer, she would stay up and take a shower, which she often said renewed her spirits, and I then went to bed, having given her my hair dryer. We woke perhaps something after 7 the next morning or closer to 8.

Mr. Jenner.

When you say "we", who do you mean?

Mrs. Paine.

The household. I think we had not yet--we pretty much woke all at once.

Mr. Jenner.

Did your husband remain at your home?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes; he remained at my home that night, the first time he had been there in a great long time. We were still eating breakfast or had just begun when the two Life people arrived again, this time with an interpreter, a woman doctor whose name I don't remember, and Marguerite Oswald and Marina Oswald, with her two little girls went with these two Life Magazine people to downtown Dallas for the purpose of seeing Lee, and Marguerite Oswald wanted to see that he got legal counsel immediately.
They were acting, the Life people were acting in this case as shovers, I feel, and I also thought Marguerite Oswald was hoping that something could be arranged between them, that would be financially helpful.

Mr. Jenner.

Did she say anything that further stimulated your thoughts and reaction in that direction?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes. I don't recall specifically but I have the clear impression that--

Mr. Jenner.

From her conversation with the Life representatives?

Mrs. Paine.

From her conversation. Yes. They left quite soon, I remember wishing Marina had taken more time to have more breakfast since it was going to be a trying day, and that is the last I saw her until March 9, in the evening, very recently.