Mrs. Paine.

She said her husband had a dark gun, dark in color, that she wasn't absolutely certain that this was the gun. She couldn't definitely recall the sight on the top of it.

Mr. Jenner.

The telescope sight?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes. Then I also was asked to make an affidavit which I signed, to the effect that I had heard her say in the garage that she had looked into this package and seen what she took to be a rifle she knew her husband had. It was after they had finished with this session that I went back in the same room where Michael was, and Mrs. Oswald, senior, came in, Mrs. Marguerite Oswald.

Mr. Jenner.

Had you met her at anytime up to that moment?

Mrs. Paine.

No. I had never met her before.

Mr. Jenner.

Had you ever talked with her at anytime up to that moment?

Mrs. Paine.

I had never talked with her.

Mr. Jenner.

Were you advised in advance of anything that had been said that she was to come?

Mrs. Paine.

No. She said she had heard on her car radio, on her way to work in the afternoon.

Mr. Jenner.

What time was this about?

Mrs. Paine.

She heard it?

Mr. Jenner.

No; that she came?

Mrs. Paine.

It was, it was certainly supper time. We had eaten no lunch.

Mr. Jenner.

All right.

Mrs. Paine.

And she said she heard on her car radio that Lee Oswald had been in custody in Dallas and had come over. Previously during October and November Marina. had told me she regretted that Lee didn't wish to keep up contact with his mother because she thought it was only proper to tell the mother of the coming grandchild, and then she wanted to announce the birth when the baby had come but she said Lee didn't try to keep her address, and Marina didn't know how to contact her or didn't want to do so around her husband certainly.

There was a warm greeting in the police station.

Mr. Jenner.

Between whom?

Mrs. Paine.

Between Marguerite Oswald and Marina Oswald and I recall both wept and Mrs. Marguerite Oswald exclaimed over the new baby, and then held the baby. I then also met Robert Oswald.

Mr. Jenner.

When did he come with relation to when Marguerite Oswald entered?

Mrs. Paine.

It seemed to me later.

Mr. Jenner.

Had you met Robert Oswald at anytime up to that moment?

Mrs. Paine.

No; I had not.

Mr. Jenner.

Was there any discussion that had taken place during the course of the day up to that moment indicating to you that Robert Oswald might or would arrive on the scene?

Mrs. Paine.

No; nothing that day about Robert at all.

Mr. Jenner.

When he entered was there an indication to you at all that none of the people, in addition to yourself, was aware that he was about to--that they had any advance advice that he was going to be present?

Mrs. Paine.

There was no indication of any advance advice to any of the people.

Mr. Jenner.

Was there any indication to the contrary?

Mrs. Paine.

I don't think anyone was really surprised that he had come.

Mr. Jenner.

There was this lack of prior notice?

Mrs. Paine.

Lack of prior notice. We then talked about where to go.

Mr. Jenner.

Excuse me, does the "we" include your husband all the time?

Mrs. Paine.

The "we" then was a group at this point of my husband, Marguerite Oswald, Marina Oswald, Robert Oswald, and myself, three children.

Mr. Jenner.

Did your husband know Robert Oswald prior to this time?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

Were they introduced to each other on this occasion?

Mrs. Paine.

They were in the same room and they might have been. It was agreed that Robert was to stay in a hotel. Marguerite Oswald asked i/she could come out and stay with Marina at my home, and it was agreed.