Mr. Mcdonald.

The ones I named there.

Mr. Ball.

Dallas Police Department men?

Mr. Mcdonald.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

I have no further questions.

Senator Cooper.

Who was it that pointed out to you the suspect when you entered the theatre?

Mr. Mcdonald.

I learned his name later.

Senator Cooper.

Did some person there point out to you, though, this man sitting in the row whom you later arrested?

Mr. Mcdonald.

Yes, sir. He was a shoestore salesman. His name was Brewer. He was the one that met us at the rear exit door and said that he saw this person run into the Texas Theatre.

Senator Cooper.

Did you hear him say that?

Mr. Mcdonald.

Yes, sir.

Senator Cooper.

And have you seen him since?

Mr. Mcdonald.

No, sir.

Senator Cooper.

But somebody has identified him to you?

Mr. Mcdonald.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

We will examine him next week, sir.

Senator Cooper.

May I ask if the suspect was pointed out to you, why was it you did not go directly to him, but you searched other persons?

Mr. Mcdonald.

Well, usually on information of that sort, you have to weigh it a little bit to make sure you get the right person. He could have been mistaken. If a suspect was in that theatre, I wanted to make sure I got him, and not overlook him.

Senator Cooper.

You said, though, that before you went into the theatre, where the seats were located, that a man pointed out to you a person who he claimed was the suspect.

Mr. Mcdonald.

Yes, sir; he said that that was the man that had acted suspiciously in running into the theatre.

Senator Cooper.

That was the man that was identified to you?

Mr. Mcdonald.

Yes, sir.

Senator Cooper.

Then, if he was the man identified to you, why did you stop and search these two men before you got to the man you later arrested?

Mr. Mcdonald.

Well, I wanted to make sure he was right.

Senator Cooper.

Was it your purpose to search everybody in there?

Mr. Mcdonald.

It was my intention everybody I came to.

Senator Cooper.

Were these the first two that you did search?

Mr. Mcdonald.

Yes, sir; they were the closest ones to me.

Senator Cooper.

They were sitting in front of the man you later arrested?

Mr. Mcdonald.

Yes, sir; they were sitting about 10 rows in front of him.

Senator Cooper.

At the time you were searching them, you could see the other man that you later arrested?

Mr. Mcdonald.

Yes, sir.

Senator Cooper.

What did he do?

Mr. Mcdonald.

Just sat in his seat, with his hands in his lap, watching me.

Senator Cooper.

Were there any other police officers in his vicinity?

Mr. Mcdonald.

There were police officers in the balcony, and police officers in the aisle, or in the lobby, you might call it--not in the theatre, except for the other three that I named.

Senator Cooper.

You are the only one in the theatre?

Mr. Mcdonald.

Well, there was the other three officers that accompanied me through the rear exit door. Officer Walker went through the curtains with me, and Officers Hawkins and Hutson was on the stage with the man that was identifying the suspect.

Senator Cooper.

Then when you told the man you arrested to stand up did he immediately pull his pistol out?

Mr. Mcdonald.

No, sir; he stood up and started raising his hands, "Well, it is all over now." But in my opinion, it was an act of giving up or surrendering. It was just natural that my hand went to his waist for a weapon, which was my intent anyway, whether he raised his hands or not. I didn't command him to raise his hands or anything. It was just a reaction of his.