Mr. Mcdonald.

I recall marking one.
Mr. BALL. The four cartridges, the witness is examining now we will mark collectively as Commission Exhibit 518.
(The articles referred to were marked Commission Exhibit No. 518 for identification.)

Mr. Ball.

And there are two cartridges that have been marked as Commission Exhibit 145 that the witness is also examining. Now, on one of the cartridges that have come from Commission's Exhibit 145, consisting of two cartridges, one of these you identify as a cartridge with a dent in it?

Mr. Mcdonald.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

How can you tell this?

Mr. Mcdonald.

From the center of this-of the primer there-it is a small indentation, and some of the metal is blurred or not polished.

Mr. Ball.

And your mark is on one of these cartridges?

Mr. Mcdonald.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

I will show you an Exhibit 519.
(The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 519 for identification.)

Mr. Ball.

Is that a picture of the theatre?

Mr. Mcdonald.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

And can you mark on there the seat in which the man was seated who was the suspect?

Mr. Mcdonald.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Put an arrow down to that seat. Did you see Oswald later that evening?

Mr. Mcdonald.

No, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Did you ever see him again?

Mr. Mcdonald.

No, sir.

Mr. Ball.

When you saw Oswald, was he bloody any?

Mr. Mcdonald.

Afterwards?

Mr. Ball.

Well, when he was being taken from the theatre. Was he bloody?

Mr. Mcdonald.

No, sir; I didn't see any blood.

Mr. Ball.

You didn't?

Mr. Mcdonald.

Because whenever they took him, they took him directly out.

Mr. Ball.

And you never saw him again?

Mr. Mcdonald.

No, sir.

Mr. Ball.

What was he wearing at that time?

Mr. Mcdonald.

At the time he was wearing a dark brown shirt and a T-shirt and dark trousers.

Mr. Ball.

A dark brown shirt, a T-shirt, and dark trousers?

Mr. Mcdonald.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

I will show you Commission 150. Does that look anything like the color of the shirt he was wearing?

Mr. Mcdonald.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

I would like to at this time offer all exhibits up to 519 in evidence.

Senator Cooper.

They will be admitted in evidence.
(The documents heretofore marked for identification as Commission Exhibits Nos. 518 and 519 were received in evidence. )

Mr. Ball.

Did you notice where the pistol was concealed on this man's person?

Mr. Mcdonald.

Yes, sir. It was under his right waist band, right side.

Mr. Ball.

Was it under the shirt?

Mr. Mcdonald.

Yes, sir; it was underneath the shirt.

Mr. Ball.

Underneath the shirt?

Mr. Mcdonald.

Yes, sir. I would like to correct that, and say it was underneath the brown shirt that he had on. Not underneath the T-shirt.

The Chairman.

It was not in a holster?

Mr. Mcdonald.

No, sir: no holster at all

Mr. Ball.

Were was there an FBI agent there?

Mr. Mcdonald.

I don't know, sir. I was told he was there, but I don't
know.

Mr. Ball.

The only people that you saw were