Mr. Belin.

All right, if we can go off the record for a moment here.
(Discussion off the record.)

Mr. Belin.

Officer Baker, first of all, handing you what the court reporter has marked as Exhibit 498, I would like you to state if you know whether or not this appears to be the door leading from the second floor hallway into the vestibule going into the lunchroom.

Mr. Baker.

Yes, sir; it does.

Mr. Belin.

Is this the door through which you glanced as you came around the stairs coming up from the first floor?

Mr. Baker.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin.

What did you see that caused you to turn away from going up to the third floor?

Mr. Baker.

As I came out of that stairway running, Mr. Truly had already gone on around, see, and I don't know, as I come around----

Mr. Dulles.

Gone on around and up?

Mr. Baker.

He had already started around the bend to come to the next elevation going up, I was coming out this one on the second floor, and I don't know, I was kind of sweeping this area as I come up, I was looking from right to left and as I got to this door here I caught a glimpse of this man, just, you know, a sudden glimpse, that is all it was now, and it looked to me like he was going away from me.

Mr. Belin.

All right. Then what did you do?

Mr. Baker.

I ran on up here and opened this door and when I got this door opened I could see him walking on down.

Mr. Dulles.

Had he meanwhile gone on through the door ahead of you?

Mr. Baker.

I can't say whether he had gone on through that door or not. All I did was catch a glance at him, and evidently he was--this door might have been, you know, closing and almost shut at that time.

Mr. Belin.

You are pointing by "this door" to the door on Exhibit 498?

Mr. Baker.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Dulles.

You mean you might have seen him as he was opening and going through the door almost?

Mr. Baker.

Well, to me it was the back of it. Now, through this window you can't see too much but I just caught a glimpse of him through this window going away from me and as I ran to this door and opened it, and looked on down in the lunchroom he was on down there about 20 feet so he was moving about as fast as I was.

Mr. Dulles.

How far were you as you left the stairwell, the stairway----

Mr. Baker.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Dulles.

From that door through which you eventually went through and then saw Oswald?

Mr. Baker.

I would say that was approximately 15, 20 feet, something like that.

Mr. Belin.

All right. On Exhibit 499 is this a picture of the lunchroom?

Mr. Baker.

Yes, sir; it is.

Mr. Belin.

Do you know what direction the camera is pointing to take this picture?

Mr. Baker.

It would be pointed eastward.

Mr. Belin.

All right. I see a coke machine off on the left. When you saw Oswald after you got to this doorway inside the lunchroom, had he gone as far as the coke machine?

Mr. Baker.

I didn't notice the coke machine or any item in the room there All I was looking at was the man, and he seemed to be approximately 20 feet down there from me.

Mr. Belin.

As you got to the doorway which on Exhibit 497 is marked as number, what number is that, you are referring to this number 24 here?

Mr. Baker.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin.

Now, with relation to Exhibit 497 perhaps you can try to trace your route as you came out from the stairway, as to the route you took and the point you were when you first caught a glimpse of some movement through that window or door?

Mr. Baker.

At the upper portion of this stairway leading to the second floor,