Mr. Baker.

I was just stepping out on to the second floor when I caught this glimpse of this man through this doorway.

Mr. Belin.

Do you want to put a spot there, with the letter "B" at the point you believe you were when you were looking through that door? You put the

letter "B" on Exhibit 497 when you first saw the movement.

Mr. Baker.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin.

And then you, from that point, could you kind of trace your route to the

Mr. Dulles.

Could I ask one question before you ask this question, and this is a bit of a leading question, and think carefully.
If Oswald had been coming down the stairs and going into the lunchroom would he have been following the course insofar as you saw a course, that he--that you saw him follow?

Mr. Baker.

Yes, sir. The reason I say that, this hallway to the right.

Mr. Belin.

By the right you mean the hallway that goes to the-- this is--

Mr. Baker.

This is a hallway right here.

Mr. Belin.

It is a hallway that has the number 27 on it?

Mr. Baker.

Yes, sir; from what I understand these are offices in there.

Mr. Dulles.

Yes.

Mr. Baker.

And he had no business in there and the lunchroom would be the only place that he would be going, and there is a door out here that you can get out and to the other part of the building.

Mr. Belin.

I think Mr. Dulles' question relates to whether or not any person would have taken a stairway or elevator to have gotten to that point, is that correct?

Mr. Dulles.

Yes; that is correct. I am clear as you come up the stairs you take a certain course you would go into the lunchroom.

Mr. Baker.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Dulles.

I am not quite clear as to where you would end up on the second floor as you come down the stairs, is it the same point?

Mr. Belin.

Mr. Dulles, if you will look on Exhibit 497, the stairway appears to be the same stairway. You see the letter, the arrow, 21, points to the stairway going up to the third floor which, of course, would be the same stairway going down from the third floor and on the building.

Mr. Dulles.

You would cross if you were going up and down, you would cross right there at the same point?

Mr. Belin.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Dulles.

And if a man were going up the stairs and then going to the lunchroom and then coming down the stairs and going to the lunchroom, he would be approximately following the same course from the time he got off the stairs and went into that room before you get to the lunchroom.

Mr. Belin.

Yes, sir.
(Discussion off the record.)

Mr. Belin.

Officer Baker, you had just marked on Exhibit 497 point "B" where you thought you were at about the time you caught a glimpse of something, either through a door or through the window in the door marked 23, is that correct?

Mr. Baker.

That is correct, sir.

Mr. Belin.

Could you trace your route from point "B" to the doorway 23, if you would, sir.

Mr. Baker.

I ran right straight across here and through this doorway and this is approximately where, I would say 23 here, is approximately where I looked through this lunchroom and saw a man on down here.

Mr. Belin.

All right. I am going to put an arrow at that point on Exhibit 497, and this arrow in pen, I am going to put a "B-I" and, at that arrow which is just to the left of the circle with the number 24 in it you say you then looked through the doorway and saw a man in the lunchroom, right?

Mr. Baker.

Yes, sir; walking away from me.

Mr. Belin.

Walking away from you. And then where did you move from point "B-I"?

Mr. Baker.

I moved on to this position 24 right here in this doorway.

Mr. Belin.

All right. I am going to put--you have put an "X" there, and