Mr. Belin.

Was he carrying anything in his hands?

Mr. Baker.

He had nothing at that time.

Mr. Belin.

All right. Were you carrying anything in either of your hands?

Mr. Baker.

Yes, sir; I was.

Mr. Belin.

What were you carrying?

Mr. Baker.

I had my revolver out.

Mr. Belin.

When did you take your revolver out?

Mr. Baker.

AS I was starting up the stairway.

Mr. Belin.

All right. Now, turning to Exhibit 497, if you would approximate on Exhibit 497 with a pen the point at which you saw this man in the lunch room when you told him to turn around.

Mr. Dulles.

Could we get first where he first saw him.

Representative Boggs.

You have that already.

Mr. Dulles.

I don't think you have it on the chart where he was.

Mr. Belin.

This is when he first saw him after he got in the room, sir. If I can go off the record.

Mr. Dulles.

What I wanted to get is where he first saw him as he was standing down here, as he was going up the stairs and stopped and then in what direction he was--he seemed to be moving at that time before he saw.

Mr. Belin.

Just answer the question, if you will. Where were you when you first caught a glimpse of this man?

Mr. Baker.

I was just coming up these stain just around this corner right here.

Mr. Belin.

All right. You were coming up the stairs at the point on Exhibit 497 where there are the letters "DN" marking down.

Mr. Baker.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin.

And you saw something move through a door which is marked as what number on Exhibit 497?

Mr. Dulles.

Where was he when you first saw him?

Mr. Baker.

At this doorway right here, this 23.

Mr. Belin.

At 23.

Representative Boggs.

May I ask a couple of questions because I have to--

Mr. Belin.

Surely.

Representative Boggs.

Were you suspicious of this man?

Mr. Baker.

No, sir; I wasn't.

Representative Boggs.

And he came up to you, did he say anything to you?

Mr. Baker.

Let me start over. I assumed that I was suspicious of everybody because I had my pistol out.

Representative Boggs.

Right.

Mr. Baker.

And as soon as I saw him, I caught a glimpse of him and I ran over there and opened that door and hollered at him.

Representative Boggs.

Right.

Mr. Dulles.

He had not seen you up to that point probably?

Mr. Baker.

I don't know whether he had or not.

Representative Boggs.

He came up to you?

Mr. Baker.

Yes, sir; and when I hollered at him he turned around and walked back to me.

Representative Boggs.

Right close to you?

Mr. Baker.

And we were right here at this position 24, right here in this doorway.

Representative Boggs.

Right. What did you say to him?

Mr. Baker.

I didn't get anything out of him. Mr. Truly had come up to my side here, and I turned to Mr. Truly and I says, "Do you know this man, does he work here?" And he said yes, and I turned immediately and went on out up the stairs.

Mr. Belin.

Then you continued up the stairway?

Representative Boggs.

Let me ask one other question. You later, when you recognized this man as Lee Oswald, is that right, saw pictures of him?

Mr. Baker.

Yes, sir. I had occasion to see him in the homicide office later that evening after we got through with Parkland Hospital and then Love Field and we went back to the City Hall and I went up there and made this affidavit.