Mr. Belin.

All right. Then what did you do?

Mr. Baker.

He said, "Okay" and so he immediately turned around, which the stairs is just to the, would be to the, well, the west of this elevator.

Mr. Belin.

All right.

Mr. Baker.

And we went up them.

Mr. Belin.

You went up the stairs then?

Mr. Baker.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin.

When you started up the stairs what was your intention at that--

Mr. Baker.

My intention was to go all the way to the top where I thought the shots had come from, to see if I could find something there, you know, to indicate that.

Mr. Belin.

And did you go all the way up to the top of the stairs right away?

Mr. Baker.

No, sir; we didn't.

Mr. Baker.

What happened?

Mr. Baker.

As I came out to the second floor there, Mr. Truly was ahead of me, and as I come out I was kind of scanning, you know, the rooms, and I caught a glimpse of this man walking away from this--I happened to see him through this window in this door. I don't know how come I saw him, but I had a glimpse of him coming down there.

Mr. Dulles.

Where was he coming from, do you know?

Mr. Baker.

No, sir. All I seen of him was a glimpse of him go away from me.

Mr. Belin.

What did you do then?

Mr. Baker.

I ran on over there

Representative Boggs.

You mean where he was?

Mr. Baker.

Yes, sir. There is a door there with a glass, it seemed to me like about a 2 by 2, something like that, and then there is another door which is 6 foot on over there, and there is a hallway over there and a hallway entering into a lunchroom, and when I got to where I could. see him he was walking away from me about 20 feet away from me in the lunchroom.

Mr. Belin.

What did you do?

Mr. Baker.

I hollered at him at that time and said, "Come here."He turned and walked right straight back to me.

Mr. Belin.

Where were you at the time you hollered?

Mr. Baker.

I was standing in the hallway between this door and the second door, right at the edge of the second door.

Mr. Belin.

He walked back toward you then?

Mr. Baker.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin.

I hand you what has been marked Commission Exhibit 497 which appears to be a diagram of the second floor of the School Book Depository, and you will notice on this diagram there are circles with arrows. I want you to state, if you will, what number or the arrow approximates the point at which you were standing when you told him to "Come here". Is there a number on there at all or not?

Mr. Baker.

This 24 would be the position where I was standing.

Mr. Belin.

The arrow which is represented by No. 24, is that correct?

Mr. Baker.

That is correct.
On Exhibit 497. When you first saw him in which direction was he walking?

Mr. Baker.

He was walking east.

Mr. Belin.

Was--his back was away from you, or not, as you first saw him?

Mr. Baker.

As I first caught that glimpse of him, or as I saw him, really saw him?

Mr. Belin.

As you really saw him.

Mr. Baker.

He was walking away from me with his back toward me.

Mr. Dulles.

Can I suggest if you will do this, put on there where the officer was and where Lee Oswald was, or the man who turned out to be Lee Oswald, and which direction he was walking in. I think that is quite important.

Mr. Belin.

Yes, sir. We are going to get to that with one more question, if I can, sir. When you saw him, he then turned around, is that correct, and then walked back toward you?

Mr. Baker.

Yes, sir.