Mr. Truly.

might have been because I saw him on the second floor and I knew he was in the building.

Representative Ford.

Had there been any traits that you had noticed from the time of his employment that might have made you think then that there was a connection between the shooting and Oswald?

Mr. Truly.

Not at all. In fact, I was fooled so completely by the sound of--the direction of the shot, that I did not believe still did not believe maybe I could not force myself to believe, that the shots came from that building until I learned that they found the gun and the shells there. So I had no feeling whatever that they did come from there. I am sure that did not bring Oswald in my mind. But it was just the fact that they were trying to get people's names.

Mr. Dulles.

When you reported that Oswald was missing, do you recall whether you told the police that he had been on the second floor?

Mr. Truly.

No, sir; I did not.

Mr. Dulles.

You did not?

Mr. Truly.

No, sir; I just said, "I have a man that is missing. I don't know whether it means anything, but this is the name."

Representative Ford.

Do you know about what time that was that you told the police?

Mr. Truly.

I could be wrong, but I think it was around 15--between 15 minutes or 20 minutes after the shots, or something. I could be as far off as 5 minutes or so. I don't know. I did not seem to think it was very long. We might have spent more time up on the roof and coming down, and then I might have walked out in the shipping department. Everybody was running up asking questions. Time could fool me. But I did not think it was but about 15 or 20 minutes later.

Representative Ford.

In your description of Oswald to Captain Fritz, did you describe the kind of clothes that Oswald had on that day?

Mr. Truly.

I don't know, sir. No, sir; I just told him his name and where he lived and his telephone number and his age, as 23, and I said 5 feet, 9, about 150 pounds, light brown hair--whatever I picked up off the description there. I did not try to depend on my memory to describe him. I just put down what was on this application blank. That's the reason I called Mr. Aiken, because I did not want to mislead anybody as to a description. I might call a man brown-halted, and he might be blonde.

Mr. Dulles.

When you, and the officer saw Oswald in the luncheon room. did any words pass between you?

Mr. Truly.

No. The officer said something to the boy.

Mr. Dulles.

I mean between you and Oswald.

Mr. Truly.

No, sir. Oswald never said a word. Not to me.

Mr. Dulles.

What was he doing?

Mr. Truly.

He was just standing there.

Mr. Dulles.

Did he have a coke?

Mr. Truly.

No, sir.

Mr. Dulles.

No drink?

Mr. Truly.

No drink at all. Just standing there.

Mr. Dulles.

Anything about his appearance that was startling or unusual?

Mr. Truly.

No, sir. No, sir; I didn't see him panting like he had been running or anything.

Mr. Dulles.

Didn't appear to be doing anything special, moving in any direction?

Mr. Truly.

No, sir. He was standing still facing the doorway to the lunch-room. The officer was there with a gun pointed at him, around towards his middle, almost touching.

Mr. Dulles.

How long before the President's actual visit on the 22d of November did you know of the visit and of the route that he was going to take.

Mr. Truly.

Well, I think they said it was announced 72 hours before the assassination that he would take that route.

Mr. Dulles.

Was there any discussion, as far as you know, among your employees, of the fact that the procession would go near the School Depository?

Mr. Truly.

No, sir; not that I know of.