Mr. Mccloy.

Did you ever have any reason to suspect any other member--any other of your boys of being in any way connected with this affair?

Mr. Truly.

No, sir; I never have found anything or any actions to make me feel that they might be connected with it.

Mr. Mccloy.

You never observed Oswald conversing with any strange or unidentified characters during his employment with you?

Mr. Truly.

Never.

Mr. Dulles.

Did Oswald have any visitors as far as you know?

Mr. Truly.

Never knew of a one; no, sir.

Mr. Mccloy.

Did he have the use of a telephone when he was in the building?

Mr. Truly.

Yes, sir. We have a telephone on the first floor that he was free to use during his lunch hour for a minute. He was supposed to ask permission to use the phone. But he could have used the phone.

Mr. Dulles.

Pay telephone or office telephone?

Mr. Truly.

No, sir; it is a regular office telephone. It is a pushbutton type.

Mr. Mccloy.

Did he strike you as being a frequent user of that telephone?

Mr. Truly.

I never remember ever seeing him on the telephone.

Mr. Dulles.

Would you have any record or be able to find out now whether he had ever used it?

Mr. Truly.

No, sir.

Mr. Mccloy.

You did not see him on November 22d with any package or any bundle?

Mr. Truly.

No, sir.

Mr. Belin.

Mr. Truly, when we were there on March 20th, did you take a walk down from the southeast corner window on the sixth floor with Officer Baker and a Secret Service Agent Howlett--we walked along from that window at the southeast corner of the sixth floor, walked along the east wall to the northeast corner of the building, and then across there around the elevators, and Secret Service Agent Howlett simulated putting a rifle at the spot where the rifle was found; and then we took the stairs down to the second floor lunch-room where Officer Baker encountered Lee Harvey Oswald? You remember us doing that?

Mr. Truly.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin.

How fast were we going--running, trotting, walking or what?

Mr. Truly.

Walking at a brisk walk, and then a little bit faster, I would say.

Mr. Belin.

You remember what time that was? How long did it take?

Mr. Truly.

It seemed to me like it was a minute and 18 seconds, and a minute and 15 seconds. We tried it twice. I believe that is about as near as I remember.

Mr. Belin.

If a person were in that southeast corner window, just knowing the way the books were laid up there, would that have been the most practicable route to use to get out of there, to get down the stairs?

Mr. Truly.

I believe so. I believe it to be.

Mr. Mccloy.

In your judgment, you think that is the route that Oswald took?

Mr. Truly.

I think--he had two possible routes there. One of them, he could come half way down the east wall and down this way, but he would have to make one more turn. But if he came all the way down the east wall to where the rows of books stop, he had a straight run toward the sixth floor stairs.

Mr. Dulles.

You do not think he used any of the elevators at any time to get from the sixth to the second floor?

Mr. Truly.

You mean after the shooting? No, sir; he just could not, because those elevators, I saw myself, were both on the fifth floor, they were both even. And I tried to get one of them, and then when we ran up to the second floor--it would have been impossible for him to have come down either one of those elevators after the assassination. He had to use the stairway as his only way of getting down--since we did see the elevators in those positions.

Mr. Dulles.

He could not have taken it down and then have somebody else go up to, that floor and leave it?

Mr. Truly.

No, sir; I don't believe he would have had time for that.

Representative Ford.

He couldn't have taken an elevator down and then sent it up to a higher floor?