Mr. Truly.

I think it was just a few days afterward because now, we would have to check upstairs. If these orders are not filled and processed and gone upstairs and matched with the copies in several days there, then we go looking for the order like the boys missed them. We have copies in the office, and
they do not come through in a reasonable time, we think that someone has lost some orders, and we get to checking them. If we cannot find them, we have to duplicate the orders.

Representative Ford.

In other words, if 2 weeks had passed without the order being filled according to your records, you would have instituted a more thorough search to find out where the unfilled order blank was.

Mr. Truly.

Yes, sir--less than that, I would say, because we do not---our customers would probably write to us before then, if they did not receive it. But the girls on it--usually 3 or 4 days, if those orders have not cleared, they come to check about them, to see if we are holding one back because we do not have the stock, or if we have lost it, the boys have lost it.
(At this point, The Chairman entered the hearing room.)

Representative Ford.

Who is the man who brought the clipboard to you?

Mr. Truly.

Bill Shelley called my attention to it. At that time I do not recall anything being done except maybe one of the boys filling the orders and just forgetting about that part of--

Representative Ford.

To your best recollection, who gave the clipboard to Bill Shelley?

Mr. Truly.

Frankie Kaiser.

Representative Ford.

Was he an employee of the Texas School Book Depository?

Mr. Truly.

Yes, sir.

Representative Ford.

Do you know generally where Kaiser found the clipboard?

Mr. Truly.

Yes, sir.

Representative Ford.

Can you point it out to us on one of the exhibits?

Mr. Belin.

The diagram of the sixth floor has been marked as Exhibit No. 483. Perhaps you can mark on Exhibit No. 483 with the letter "O" where you think the clipboard was found.
I might at this point on the record say for the Commission that Exhibit 506 purports to be the position of the clipboard when it was discovered--the cupboard is circled, and the number on the picture, on Exhibit 506, is numbered 36, and on the Exhibit 483 appears at the end of the arrow with the number 36 on it, which is near where Mr. Truly put his "C". And the number 35 on that same exhibit--the number 35 will be shown tomorrow to be the position of the rifle when it was discovered.

Representative Ford.

And 36 is the position of the clipboard?

Mr. Ball.

I don't think you can take that as evidence.

Mr. Belin.

This is not evidence. This is just background.

Mr. Ball.

This is really an offer of proof on our part. That is the most you can consider it--because we intend to take the deposition of Kaiser who found the clipboard.

Representative Ford.

Is there someone here, the staff or Mr. Truly, who knows approximately when the clipboard was found?

Mr. Belin.

Yes, sir. I can give you that date in about one minute. According to our records, Frankie Kaiser, when interviewed on December 2d, said that on the morning of December 2d he found a clipboard which he had made and which he had turned over to Lee Harvey Oswald with orders. And we have a list of the orders also in one of the Commission documents. It is Document 7, page 381.
But we are going to have to actually take the deposition of Mr. Kaiser, which we will do when we go to Dallas next week or the week after, or whenever we get to him.

Representative Ford.

Off the record.
(Discussion off the record.)

Representative Ford.

Back on the record.

Mr. Belin.

Three more pictures, Mr. Truly.
I hand you what the reporter has marked as Exhibit 505.