Mr. Belin.

Do you know whether this was ever identified as having ever belonged to any particular employee of yours?

Mr. Truly.

Well, he brought the clipboard to Bill Shelley and told him about it, and he said, "This is an old clipboard I used, to use. This is the one that Oswald was using." It was a kind of homemade affair.

Mr. Belin.

When you say he brought it to Bill Shelley, who are you referring to?

Mr. Truly.

I am referring to Frankie Kaiser who brought the clipboard with the orders downstairs and told Bill Shelley that he had found Oswald's clipboard with some orders on it.

Mr. Belin.

Had those orders ever been filled or not?

Mr. Truly.

No, sir. You see, when they fill the orders, they take them off the clipboard. They may have 25 on the clipboard, and after a while they will have 15 or 10 or something.

Mr. Belin.

Do you know whether or not those orders were ever eventually filled that were found on the clipboard?

Mr. Truly.

Yes, sir; they were filled.

Mr. Belin.

What did you do with the clipboard and the order blanks that were on there?

Mr. Truly.

I think someone else filled the order blanks and the clipboard lay around there for a while until it was mentioned. I don't recall what happened to it. At the time nobody considered it of too much significance, I suppose that the boy was just filling orders up there and he had just thrown his clipboard over. I believe that someone from a government agency either got the clip-board or looked at it. I have this thing all mixed up. It hasn't been very long ago, you know, about the clipboard. I don't know the solution of it. They were trying to identify this clipboard just a short while ago for someone the FBI or the Secret Service, or it could be you, could it?

Mr. Belin.

No, sir.

Mr. Truly.

Just shortly before you.

Mr. Belin.

Well, let me ask you this question?
Are there any ways in which your orders are posted that show anything along the lines that Congressman Ford suggested as to who might fill an order or when an order would be posted? In other words, if you come to an order and you see that the order is dated maybe November 21st, but you do not know whether it was filled on November 21st or November 22d, would your posting system of entries on your ledger or journal in any way show when it was filled

Mr. Truly.

No, sir. The date that we go by is the date the checker checks the order, and then he puts the date stamp on it. He puts it over on the table in a little conveyor belt, and the boys wrap it. When he separates the packing list and the invoice itself ---he puts the packing list and the label with the order. Then he dates the invoice as of that date, and it goes upstairs to be matched with the other copies, and then charged to the customer.

Mr. Belin.

Well, you mentioned earlier that periodically your checkers get a check to ascertain how many orders were filled by the various employees. Do you know of any such check made on the morning of November 22d?

Mr. Truly.

No, sir; I do not recall having made a check in several days before that. We would usually run a check of errors for a week, and then we would run a check occasionally of orders filled. And checking on the errors the various boys made maybe we have an unusual number for us of teachers writing in saying that they got the wrong book. So we try to check and see which one of these boys possibly was making these errors.

Mr. Belin.

Is it your testimony that you do not recall any check being made on November 22d, or you are sure there was no check on November 22d?

Mr. Truly.

There was no check that I recall. And I am sure there wasn't.
(At this point, The Chairman left the hearing room.)

Representative Ford.

Could you tell us the approximate date that this individual found the clipboard and brought it to your attention?

Mr. Truly.

No, sir.

Representative Ford.

Was it a few days after the assassination, or several weeks?