Mr. Belin.

(The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 505 for identification.)
I ask you to state if this appears to be the stairway leading from the second to the third floor, or can't you tell?

Mr. Truly.

I believe so; yes.

Mr. Belin.

And that is the stairway that you went up two or three steps before you came down to get Officer Baker?

Mr. Truly.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin.

Now, I note with regard to the floor plan on the second floor that when you want to get to the lunchroom from the elevator, if you want to get to the lunchroom from the west elevator you have to walk-in the area through that door marked number 23. Is that correct?

Mr. Truly.

That's right.

Mr. Belin.

If you want to get there from the east elevator, what do you do?

Mr. Truly.

Well, there is a side door, a north door, coming into the lunch-room that they can come through.

Mr. Belin.

Does that north door appear on Exhibit 501?

Mr. Truly.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

That appears to be located east of the Coca Cola machine, is that correct?

Mr. Truly.

That is correct.

Mr. Belin.

Now, if someone wanted to take an elevator and get off on the second floor, and go through the back door to get to the lunchroom, would there be any way for that elevator to leave the second floor other than for someone to get back on that east elevator and personally operate it?

Mr. Truly.

No, sir.

Mr. Belin.

In other words, the east elevator you have to actually have an operator on it and it cannot be moved by just pushing a button?

Mr. Truly.

That's right.

Mr. Belin.

One other question. Just what are Rolling Readers? Is Rolling a company or what is it?

Mr. Truly.

Well, if you would look at it you wouldn't know what it was after you opened the box. But it is a new concept in material for reading for children in the first grade, kindergarten and so forth. They are little blocks with words on them that roll out, and then you turn them over. It is something like know way back in my childhood they would use number blocks and things like that. But it has words and sentences and things they can put together.

Mr. Dulles.

A square like dice?

Mr. Truly.

That's right. It looks like dice, only they are bigger. They have the theory that these can interest a lot of children because of the noise they put out here, and they pick them up when they hit the floor and put them together into sentences and things. Something to stimulate the interest of children who are not quite as advanced in their reading.

Mr. Belin.

Are they relatively heavy or light cartons?

Mr. Truly.

They are very light.

Mr. Belin.

The cartons themselves. About how much would a carton of 10 Rolling Readers weigh?

Mr. Truly.

I don't think they would weigh over between five and ten pounds.

Mr. Belin.

And by 10 Rolling Readers you mean there were 10 sets of the Rolling Readers in each of these cartons shown on Exhibit 504?

Mr. Truly.

That's right.

Mr. Belin.

At this time we offer in evidence exhibits 490 through 506 inclusive.

Mr. Mccloy.

They may be admitted.
(The documents heretofore marked Commission Exhibits Nos. 490 through 506, inclusive, for identification, were received in evidence.)

Mr. Mccloy.

Truly, I think I heard you say when you were describing the first contact that you had with Oswald that you said, "That is the last time I saw him until November 16th."
Did I hear you say that?

Mr. Truly.

No, sir; I did not. If I did, it was a mistake. I saw him on October 16th, the morning he came to work.