Mr. Belin.

Now, you got to the elevator, and what did you do then?

Mr. Truly.

I looked up. This is two elevators in the same well. This elevator over hero

Mr. Belin.

You are pointing to the west one?

Mr. Truly.

I am pointing to the west one. This elevator was on the fifth floor. Also, the east elevator-- as far as I can tell--both of them were on the fifth floor at that time.
This elevator will come down if the gates are down, and you push a button.

Representative Ford.

Which elevator is that?

Mr. Truly.

The west one. But the east one will not come down unless you get on it and bring it down. You cannot call it if the gates are down.

Representative Ford.

That is the east elevator?

Mr. Truly.

The east elevator?
There is a button and a little bell here. I pressed

Mr. Belin.

You might put a "B" on Exhibit 362 by the elevator for "button."

Mr. Truly.

That is right on this surface. There is a little button. I pressed the button and the elevator didn't move.
I called upstairs , "Turn loose the elevator."

Mr. Belin.

When you say call up, in what kind of a voice did you call?

Mr. Truly.

Real loud. I suppose in an excited voice. But loud enough that anyone could have heard me if they had not been over stacking or making a little noise. But I rang the bell and pushed this button.

Mr. Belin.

What did you call?

Mr. Truly.

I said, "Turn loose the elevator." Those boys understand that language.

Mr. Belin.

What does that mean?

Mr. Truly.

That means if they have the gates up, they go pull the gates down, and when you press the button, you can pull it down.

Mr. Belin.

And how many times did you yell that?

Mr. Truly.

Two times.

Mr. Belin.

After you had first pushed the button?

Mr. Truly.

That is right. I had pressed the button twice I believe, and called up for the elevator twice.

Mr. Belin.

Then what did you do? First of all, did the elevator come down?

Mr. Truly.

It did not.

Mr. Belin.

All right. Then what did you do?

Mr. Truly.

I went up on a run up the stairway.

Mr. Belin.

Could you again follow--from Point B, could you show which way you went? All right.

Mr. Truly.

What is this here?

Mr. Belin.

This is to show this is a stairway, and there is a stairway above it, too. But you went up the stairs right here?

Mr. Truly.

That is right.

Mr. Belin.

Okay. And where was this officer at that time?

Mr. Truly.

This officer was right behind me and coming up the stairway.
By the time I reached the second floor, the officer was a little further behind me than he was on the first floor, I assume--I know.

Mr. Belin.

Was he a few feet behind you then?

Mr. Truly.

He was a few feet. It is hard for me to tell. I ran right on around to my left, started to continue on up the stairway to the third floor, and on up.

Mr. Belin.

Now when you say you ran on to your left, did you look straight ahead to see whether there was anyone in that area, or were you intent on just going upstairs?

Mr. Truly.

If there had been anybody in that area, I would have seen him on the outside. But I was content--I was trying to show the officer the pathway up, where the elevators--I mean where the stairways continued.

Mr. Belin.

Now, I hand you what has been marked Exhibit 497.